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The GF4MX got a bad reputation and was sometimes labelled as a 'rebranded gf2mx' but actually their performance was a lot better - MX440 was faster than a GF2 Ultra and MX460 was around GF3ti200 performance.
 
HangTime said:
The GF4MX got a bad reputation and was sometimes labelled as a 'rebranded gf2mx' but actually their performance was a lot better - MX440 was faster than a GF2 Ultra and MX460 was around GF3ti200 performance.
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yep the gf4 mx 440 was a gf2 ultra but with faster mem :)

if you knew what you were buying it was a sweet budget card :)
 
HangTime said:
The GF4MX got a bad reputation and was sometimes labelled as a 'rebranded gf2mx' but actually their performance was a lot better - MX440 was faster than a GF2 Ultra and MX460 was around GF3ti200 performance.
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Problem was there was a huge variation of them - some OEMs were even selling a version (in their pre-built systems) with really cheap VRAM that was something like 4x slower than the reference design just for memory bandwidth and some IIRC were even re-badged earlier MX versions.
 
Rroff said:
Problem was there was a huge variation of them - some OEMs were even selling a version (in their pre-built systems) with really cheap VRAM that was something like 4x slower than the reference design just for memory bandwidth and some IIRC were even re-badged earlier MX versions.
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ahh the pny one kicked ass :P
 
Yrkoon said:
ahh the pny one kicked ass :p
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There were some good ones - the Elsa Gladiac MX cards in many cases were cores from the main line but with a pipeline or two soft disabled on a redesigned PCB and cheaper VRAM but usually could be overclocked to match the GTS type variants of the non-MX cards (even when they were overclocked). There were some truly hateful GPUs in the MX line up as well you really had to know what you were buying.
 
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2900xt, had 2 in crossfire.....good god they were bad. The card was meant to be a behemoth, but there was a lot of talk about it being developed for a specific direct x spec which suddenly got changed and the performance suffered badly. Dunno how much truth there is to that.

Has to be said the decals on the shroud were nice, and fitting at the same time.
 
Rroff said:
There were some good ones - the Elsa Gladiac MX cards in many cases were cores from the main line but with a pipeline or two soft disabled on a redesigned PCB and cheaper VRAM but usually could be overclocked to match the GTS type variants of the non-MX cards (even when they were overclocked). There were some truly hateful GPUs in the MX line up as well you really had to know what you were buying.
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yeh i know some one that got a lesser one and it ran quake 3 worse than a geforce 1 :P
 
Gerard said:
2900xt, had 2 in crossfire.....good god they were bad. The card was meant to be a behemoth, but there was a lot of talk about it being developed for a specific direct x spec which suddenly got changed and the performance suffered badly. Dunno how much truth there is to that.

Has to be said the decals on the shroud were nice, and fitting at the same time.
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Wasn't the 2900 series designed with a specific DX10 support line at the time, and even featured GDDR4. I had two 2900GTs in XFIRE when OcUK sold them on clearance.

I think the only game at the time that actually used the features was Call of Juarez.

Just looked up some old reviews of the 2900XT with that game, and it seems to give the the 8800GTX a good challenge in Call of Juarez.

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/77644-call-of-juarez-directx-10-benchmark/3

The HD 2900 XT gives the 8800 GTX a good run for its money. Costing about $150 less, ATI’s new card manages to equal the larger, more expensive, yet more power-efficient DX10 offering from Nvidia. At 1280×720 with no AA applied, it’s even a good deal faster.

It does highlight specific DX10 features, and that gives the driver developers something to target. It’s also interesting in that the Radeon HD 2900 XT performs better overall than its primary competition, the GeForce 8800 GTS. It’s as fast as the 8800 GTX, and in some cases faster.
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Rroff said:
Problem was there was a huge variation of them - some OEMs were even selling a version (in their pre-built systems) with really cheap VRAM that was something like 4x slower than the reference design just for memory bandwidth and some IIRC were even re-badged earlier MX versions.
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Yes, I couldn't understand why my MX440 performed worse than my previous card (a Geforce 3 I think). I later discovered I had a 64bit SDRAM card rather than the much better 128bit DDR version.

I was young and naïve and all I saw was "MX440", "128MB" and " Special Edition" (I thought that must make it better!). In my limited defence I didn't have much access to internet back then outside of school.

Still, I moved on to a Radeon 9700 Pro which probably remains the most noticeable upgrade I've ever made. (Was lucky to get it for £30 in the local paper so soon after launch).
 
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N19h7m4r3 said:
Wasn't the 2900 series designed with a specific DX10 support line at the time, and even featured GDDR4. I had two 2900GTs in XFIRE when OcUK sold them on clearance.

I think the only game at the time that actually used the features was Call of Juarez.

Just looked up some old reviews of the 2900XT with that game, and it seems to give the the 8800GTX a good challenge in Call of Juarez.

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/77644-call-of-juarez-directx-10-benchmark/3
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It was a big flop overall considering the hype for it, when amd launched it they went with a "value for money" marketing scheme as part of the promotional material, when it's obvious this was meant to be an 8800gtx competitor, on some games it done ok, in most it got utterly demolished by the gtx.

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When it came out it was even being bested by the x1900 series in some benchmarks, Battlefield 2142 being one of them. In one Half Life 2 benchmark the 8800gtx was beating it by around 40 fps. Suppose we'll never really know what went wrong with this card, massive die on it but it guzzled power and was just about competitive with the 8800gts.

I still remember the day 1 reviews with people being bewildered by the performance, claims of faulty cards, biased benchmarking (nothing new there) and drivers to blame (again, par for the course). It was an amazingly bad launch considering the previous cards were the x1900 series which were well received.
 
Gerard said:
it's obvious this was meant to be an 8800gtx competitor
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Bit 'unlucky' timing to go up against the 8800GTX which was an extremely good card, probably the 'best' (relative to the competition) card since the 9700pro and not many cards since have been so dominant, I guess you could say the 1080ti over 10 years later was the first card in that sort of bracket, although I might have forgotten something.
 
HangTime said:
Bit 'unlucky' timing to go up against the 8800GTX which was an extremely good card, probably the 'best' (relative to the competition) card since the 9700pro and not many cards since have been so dominant, I guess you could say the 1080ti over 10 years later was the first card in that sort of bracket, although I might have forgotten something.
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Not even that, the 2900xt was being beat in some games by the x1900, it just wasnt a great card.
 
Mine was moving from a TNT2 Ultra to a Geforce 256.

I was quite excited about the new 256 and ordered one pretty much on the day of release.
It arrived and was terrible. Frame rates were lower than the TNT2 Ultra and it promptly went back.

I kept the TNT2 Ultra until I purchased a Geforce 2 MX which wasn't too bad, and from there went to a 9800 Pro which was superb.
 
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