Zen 2 Owners Thread!

awaybreaktoday · 15 Jul 2019 at 00:48

Please all read reddit page: lots of info there and people posting what they are doing to try and resolve the problem:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cd7pqb/warning_samsung_nvme_ssds_also_subject_to_whea/

This Ryzen launch has been rushed, it should have been delayed. Again they are using early adopters as beta testers for threadripper and epyc.....

Skalaberg · 15 Jul 2019 at 00:50

awaybreaktoday said:
Wrong place, Open event viewer, choose create custom view > by source > event source whea-logger. Clear system log to delete them. If you want you can also make it display a message whenever a whea error occurs by attaching a task.

still zero!!

DrBombcrater · 15 Jul 2019 at 00:51

Built an R5 3600 system today and it's showing this problem too. As soon as the NVMe SSD is under load, WHEA errors crop up. Benchmarking the drive with CrystalDiskMark generates around one WHEA error per minute.

awaybreaktoday · 15 Jul 2019 at 00:51

Skalaberg said:
still zero!!

Then your ok. But I cannot guarantee you that

awaybreaktoday · 15 Jul 2019 at 01:37

awaybreaktoday said:
Then your ok.

Quote:
Just to ensure I'm looking at this right, you guys are seeing the errors in the Kernel-WHEA folder of the event viewer?

I have 0 events logged, yet sfc also found uncorrectable corruption...

Sin_Chase · 15 Jul 2019 at 01:41

After a 3 day build (on and off) got my 3900x in an Auros Master running.

Boy do these chips runs hot! 44ish idle but 75 under load. Full custom loop with a water temp of 25C.

Grim5 · 15 Jul 2019 at 02:20

Sin_Chase said:
After a 3 day build (on and off) got my 3900x in an Auros Master running.

Boy do these chips runs hot! 44ish idle but 75 under load. Full custom loop with a water temp of 25C.

Stock cooler does 90c under certain conditions - so 75 isn't bad imo

69Dude · 15 Jul 2019 at 02:25

awaybreaktoday said:
Quote:
Just to ensure I'm looking at this right, you guys are seeing the errors in the Kernel-WHEA folder of the event viewer?

I have 0 events logged, yet sfc also found uncorrectable corruption...

Windows logs then system. I have 450 errors and corruption

C:\Windows\system32>sfc /scannow

Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

Beginning verification phase of system scan.
Verification 100% complete.

Windows Resource Protection found corrupt files but was unable to fix some of them.
For online repairs, details are included in the CBS log file located at
windir\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For example C:\Windows\Logs\CBS\CBS.log. For offline
repairs, details are included in the log file provided by the /OFFLOGFILE flag.

Troezar · 15 Jul 2019 at 05:38

Reading that thread on Reddit or looks like people on Intel systems are having the same issues. Potentially it might be m.2 slots that are NVME only on Windows 1903.

AStaley · 15 Jul 2019 at 07:30

Looks like the delay in delivering my 3900X/RAM might have some benefits after all. Hopefully this is something that can fixed with a BIOS/Windows update depending on where the fault lays.

Yaayuh! · 15 Jul 2019 at 08:58

Suggest using Windows drivers for NVMe drives, not the Samsung drivers (or Intel perhaps, unsure on them). Uninstall them for the time being, it seems a bit buggy.

killem · 15 Jul 2019 at 08:59

This bug is probably explaining why I am getting wattman resets on my radeon 7

@djbully I heard you had problems with your Radeon 7 since you upgraded to a 3900X if true what went wrong?

Orange Nexus · 15 Jul 2019 at 09:48

Skalaberg said:
still zero!!

SS or it did not happen

Looks like some intel systems are affected too. Maybe Windows being Windows?

alec · 15 Jul 2019 at 10:24

Sin_Chase said:
Boy do these chips runs hot! 44ish idle but 75 under load. Full custom loop with a water temp of 25C.

Out of curiosity, what are temps on Powersave powerplan?
Does the cpu even know how to do low power idle?

DragonQ · 15 Jul 2019 at 10:39

alec said:
Out of curiosity, what are temps on Powersave powerplan?
Does the cpu even know how to do low power idle?

I'm using Ryzen Balanced and have never seen CPU voltage below 1.4 V in Ryzen Master. HWInfo reports it as low as 0.925 V sometimes but apparently that can't be trusted...

JonJ678 · 15 Jul 2019 at 10:56

Sin_Chase said:
Boy do these chips runs hot! 44ish idle but 75 under load. Full custom loop with a water temp of 25C.

50 degree delta seems too much. Solder, couple of mm of copper, tim, block. Weak point in the chain is the tim, could be worth remounting the block.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 15 Jul 2019 at 11:05

Reading that Reddit thread on the SSD issues:

EDIT: Seems Intel SSDs are also affected. It's perhaps probable that all data storage devices that interface via PCI-E are affected.
EDIT2: There are reports that "putting an NVMe SSD in an m.2 slot that supports both PCIe and SATA (even if you're running in PCIe mode) eliminates the issue."
EDIT3: A Windows 10 bug from July 10th could also be the culprit: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/ne...cannow-cant-fix-corrupted-files-after-update/

It might a Windows 10 update bug too.

alec · 15 Jul 2019 at 11:09

DragonQ said:
I'm using Ryzen Balanced and have never seen CPU voltage below 1.4 V in Ryzen Master. HWInfo reports it as low as 0.925 V sometimes but apparently that can't be trusted...

Yes, it is pretty clear the monitoring software can't be trusted.
Power from wall and motherboard cpu temp sensor can. They will show what is actually going on long term without those crazy instant 1ms boost jumps.

i_am_jon · 15 Jul 2019 at 12:18

I still haven't figured out PBO and overclocking on my 3900x, but got my ram running happy at 3600C16. Been waiting for better guides and updated BIOS (currently on AGESA 1.0.0.3AB) and monitoring tools, all a bit confusing at the moment. Ryzen master seems to be the only reliable monitoring tool that shows the true core states.

With PBO the highest I've seen my 3900x boost is ~4.3Ghz and all cores loaded seems to sit at ~4.1Ghz. Ryzen master shows it is down-clocking and sleeping cores when idle, using ryzen balanced power plan. Load temps are 65-70 degrees, idle seems to be all over the place 45-60 degrees. This is just on air cooling, reckon I've got some headroom so far as temps are concerned. Load CPU volts around 1.35-1.375 and idle is 1.40-1.48. Almost looks like it runs better under load....

Seems the preferred route is an all core overclock to about 4.3Ghz, does this still down clock / sleep cores when idle? Would like to see single cores hitting 4.6Ghz+ is this possible by tweaking the PBO settings, maybe need to up the power limits? What about IF overclocking, does this offer greater performance gains? Not sure how to overclock Infinity Fabric think I can probably get my ram up to 3800C17 if IF clock go 1:1 at 1900.

Sin_Chase · 15 Jul 2019 at 13:00

Reports are you need to have won the silicone lottery for any meaningful IF overclock past 1800.