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[DOD]Asprilla;12469057 said:
It doesn't mean FF intended it to happen, it just means that FF was not going to have his actions dictated when he was in the right.
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Burnsy2023 said:
But again, he wasn't the main cause of the accident, the cyclist was. He didn't avoid the accident, but then he should have to.
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FF knew what was coming, we know this because he mentions how stubborn he is and carries on even though he knows a cyclist is approaching that is not slowing down, the fact he knows this gives him the opportunity to avoid the accident, that is why FF's actions could be unlawful

I dont think its such a black and white case just because the light was on red or because pedestrians have right of way

I think its very interesting though, certainly very funny :D
 
JBuk said:
FF knew what was coming, we know this because he mentions how stubborn he is and carries on even though he knows a cyclist is approaching that is not slowing down, the fact he knows this gives him the opportunity to avoid the accident, that is why FF's actions could be unlawful

I dont think its such a black and white case just because the light was on red or because pedestrians have right of way

I think its very interesting though, certainly very funny :D
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Didn't the cyclist have brakes? He said that he saw FF "clock" him.
 
skippi90 said:
Didn't the cyclist have brakes? He said that he saw FF "clock" him.
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good point,something I missed
that would mean the cyclist had obviously seen FF, putting the onus on the cyclist to stop wether the light was red or not
 
Try going to Amsterdam and avoiding getting hit by a bike!! Got ran over about 3 times there - they rule both the roads and the pavements!
 
Shotgun_ned said:
The ones who annoy me the most are the tools who decide to cycle 5 ft away from the kerb or if there are more than one, cycle next to each other rather than in a line, making passing almost impossible.
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Is this so you can arrive at your destination 10 seconds quicker?? :rolleyes:

I ride my bike in line with the nearside tracks made by other vehicles, meaning that I can avoid the slippery/broken drain covers, potholes and the general crap of grit and broken glass swept into the kerbside by the other vehicles, it also helps me arrive at my destination safely.

When out with the club we ride in pairs, side by side, this is not illegal and means we can be seen more easily by other road users, however when we are on narrow roads/lanes and a car comes up behind, we single out.... no problem.

Just remember that Cyclists are people with families too, we are not just targets for other road users, so take a second to think about that before you barge past a cyclist or a group with your 2 tons of steel on wheels!

However I do agree that there are some ********* who ride bikes, but that is the same in cars, lorries, buses etc......

As for the OP, The cyclist was well in the wrong, at a red light he should have stopped as the law states, but you could have easily been killed or killed the cyclist..... would it have been worth it for your family to prove a point?

For information I am a club cyclist, I have 3rd party insurance through British Cycling, Gold Membership, (it is part of our club rules to hold insurance), I also pay road tax on 2 vehicles both with full comp insurance.

Also my bike produce zero emissions and costs me absolutely nothing in petrol!!! :D and it is great fun to ride in the summer in the hills and lanes of Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire!!! ;)
 
I don't get the arguing.

It is as simple as:

There are bad cyclists, just as there are bad car drivers.

You can't label all of them the same, despite the fact that a percentage ruins it for the majority.
 
Years ago a load of us from work had a night out bowling. It was a normal works do, the usual stuff you know. Swopping beer with the girls as you kiss, chucking food, running on lanes, normal.
As the night ended and we made our way home I stuck my arm out to signal down a taxi. I didnt see some idiot on a bike (without any lights on) and clothes lined (sp?) him :D It was hilarious. He jumped up from the floor, got on his bike and rode off, we were all still laughing. As there was no more taxis to be seen, we carried on walking into town. Next thing this guy on his bike came hurtling towards me :eek: so I just stepped out of his way, he put his brake on, yep just one brake! His front one lol. he went flying over his handlebars and on the floor again. He did this a total of 3 times!!!! We couldnt believe it, it was so funny. Until he just got of his bike and tried to murder me, ha we couldnt help but laugh again :D

Moral: Never mistake a bicycle for a taxi. ******* idiot!!!!11!
 
Cyclists like him which are way over 90% are pure ***** idiots who think they rule to roads and probably the world.
Glad you are ok, shame he isn't in hospital.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Cyclists like him which are way over 90% are pure ***** idiots who think they rule to roads and probably the world.
Glad you are ok, shame he isn't in hospital.
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do you have any proof of your 90% claim ?

I rarely see any cyclists breaking the law or think they rule the road, there are the odd few but certainly no where near 90%

at a pure guess I would estimate around 5% that I see run a red or ride on the pavement
 
JBuk said:
do you have any proof of your 90% claim ?

I rarely see any cyclists breaking the law or think they rule the road, there are the odd few but certainly no where near 90%

at a pure guess I would estimate around 5% that I see run a red or ride on the pavement
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I'd love that to be the case in Southampton, but I really do feel I am in the minority. I think it's much closer to 50/50 here.

Burnsy
 
Well I have a bit of a bruise on my left thigh and a bit of a bruise on my shoulder where parts of his body hit me, but other than that I'm fine.

Yes I did stand my ground, though I didn't purposely slow down or speed up I kept at my pace because frankly although the cyclist had seen me I honestly did expect him to stop or swerve around me as most cyclists do. He didn't he made a point of it I'm sure to prove that I was in the wrong some how.

Thanks for some of your concerns, however it'll take a bit more than a cyclists to render me RIP. I'm not exactly waif like!

However I do admit my stubborn streak is probably a little silly, but frankly as I was carrying some papers I really didn't feel like running, why should I run from the cyclist when I'm entitled to cross - even if it had been an emergency services car/van it would have stopped, though in such a case I'd have probably darted out of their way anyway - however why did the cyclist EXPECT me to move for him?

I didn't really want to bring this as an anti cycling thread, but obviously it's going to happen - however I refuse to be bullied, and it'll probably be my undoing one day, but until then I stand forthright in my convictions.

An interesting array of comments I must say.

Khan yes I do live in London.

Let me reiterate, though that I'm not trying to show off or be super proud of being a bit of a stubborn git, but I wanted to share my story to either help educate cyclists, or at least realise the implications. Had I been a frail or disabled person it might have been a sadder story.
 
Tomc@T said:
Is this so you can arrive at your destination 10 seconds quicker?? :rolleyes:
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Yes, actually.

And I'm not talking about 2 abreast, I know that's legal though I don't understand why. I'm talking about the cycling clubs who always seem to be out in force every weekend around here who quite happily take up most of the road riding 3-4 abreast.
 
Whilst I cannot say I have experienced this for myself, I can say that you handled that better than a lot of people would, and well done for doing so. I'm not suggesting that most people are neanderthal like, but some are more likely to 'bout fisticuffs' over such a small matter.

What made the reading of original post even more delightful was the style of writing. Very proper English and how all things should be written. :)
 
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