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You know the saying...People who live in glass houses should not throw stones
You know the saying,....it takes one to know one
May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’
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I am afraid i disagree, If enough people complain then i think it should be censored for TV because of its nature (but not for DVD releases)
It probably isn't the only one that kicked up a fuss, but the religion currently flavour of the month in the media is Islam thus the endless air time.
Two things here, which you keep ignoring:-
1) Do you not realise the only reason it was censored were because of threats of violence? Are you not ashamed to in any way be associated with this? Yet you support their motives/goals, even though they are utterly intolerant?
2) Why is Islam so special? Why is Islam so intolerant? Why is Islam so scared? No other religion behaves this way? What does that say about Islam and its mentality? And I'll repeat my previous analogy. If a country's leader said no depictions were permitted of them, mocking/comical, what would you think about that? It's dictatorial and very unhealthy!
And your final comment about it should be censored on TV, but not on DVD, just shows how ridiculous it all is. Why does that make any sense at all? You're not forced to watch the DVD, but you are forced to watch the TV? Daft! Why should anyone have material censored because of the balmy beliefs of a religion?
Faith should have no say of peoples freedom! It's VERY dangerous! To be frank it leads to the scary sort of societies/cultures seen all to often (for some reason) fermenting around Islamic views. People need to be more freedom of speech, not less. And certainly not have freedoms removed due to opinions dictated by religion.
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While I agree that freedom to say what you want is important and that discussing the the Islamic rules regarding images of Muhammed is a valid topic. This thread does seem to be like a honeypot to a Bee to the some of the more bigoted members of OCUK forum.
Some (you know who you are), have used this thread as an excuse to insult Muslims regardless of making any specific arguement. Some cartoons have a valid social and topical message, but some on here are just plain offensive and in my opinion just not neccessary.
Lets keep it topical and relevent, and keep the overtly offensive material to yourselves, Please.
Some (you know who you are), have used this thread as an excuse to insult Muslims regardless of making any specific arguement. Some cartoons have a valid social and topical message, but some on here are just plain offensive and in my opinion just not neccessary.
Lets keep it topical and relevent, and keep the overtly offensive material to yourselves, Please.
Agreed...
But you have to admit it's sometimes tricky to play judge and rule which ones fall where!?
I haven't really found it that hard to say which is which, but it does come down to personal opinion.
True and true. But to be most although some on the face seem well 'past the mark', they generally still have some element of sarcasm or irony in there somewhere.
I mean even the image on the top of this particular page, while clearly insulting on some levels, still has a ironic comment in there.
It get's difficult when you have to play moral guardian
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Possibly, but some people would suggest some of the teachings of the Koran are not entirely peaceful, or at least result in unpeaceful actions, or intolerant outcomes, by design, or accident, so the irony is there?
Difficult.... Better to not censor it all (where possible) than to suggest we know best!
The previous ones made those exact criticisms without refering to Hitler, who had nothing whatsoever to do with Islam, quite the opposite in fact, and it is overtly anti-Islamic in insinuating that the Quran was dictated to Muhammed by Satan, so it's message is about racism and anti-Islamic rhetoric rather than a criticism of Jihadi or extremism within the Islamic faith.
In a thread that criticises Fundamental Islam of intolerance and racist rhetoric the real irony is that we allow the very same thing in return.
Ummm...
Fundamental Islamic intolerance = loss of freedom, death and carnage...
This threads intolerace = some questionable cartoons...
Let's not get carried away shall we...
We need to keep things in perspective... Some questionable cartoons vs a VERY important principle - A religion dictating what can be thought/said/drawn by people. Scary stuff which really should not be tolerated, especially in this day and age.
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Muslim immigrants attack Danish pop-star
I wanted to make a new thread for this, but they seem to be closing anything to do with Islam if it isnt posted in here, so I'll just put it here instead:
Muslim immigrants attack Danish pop-star
Presenting you number 14987 in the list of "Things that offend Muslims"..Danish-Chilean popstars names...
Erm, right, just exactly who is making the religion look like crap? Complaining Muslims, or this non-muslim Danish pop singer:
I'm kind of seriously confused over how this pop singer makes Islam look like crap
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In my opinion, anyone that threw eggs at her because of her name should have been shot dead.
I wanted to make a new thread for this, but they seem to be closing anything to do with Islam if it isnt posted in here, so I'll just put it here instead:
Muslim immigrants attack Danish pop-star
Presenting you number 14987 in the list of "Things that offend Muslims"..Danish-Chilean popstars names...
Erm, right, just exactly who is making the religion look like crap? Complaining Muslims, or this non-muslim Danish pop singer:
I'm kind of seriously confused over how this pop singer makes Islam look like crap
.In my opinion, anyone that threw eggs at her because of her name should have been shot dead.
I'm not, I'm making a point. Intolerance and racism should not be criticised by simply issuing more intolerance and racism in return, regardless of the ultimate outcome.
Read both books, they are very similar.
I have, and they are not.
Yup, the Qu'ran is filled with more hate and intolerance than Mein Kampf. You have a point.
No its not lol.
Its just funny, its something called 'Humor', which you probably dont have any of
.The Koran itself is far more offensive than any picture drawn depicting Islam. So can we ban the Koran and Islam on the basis that it is offensive? IMO please go right ahead
.No its not lol.
Its just funny, its something called 'Humor', which you probably dont have any of
The Koran itself is far more offensive than any picture drawn depicting Islam. So can we ban the Koran and Islam on the basis that it is offensive? IMO please go right ahead
I have a very well developed sense of humour thankyou, it's just not dependant upon offending other people un-neccessarily.
Interpretation of the Qur'an may be offensive and extremist in some cases, it doesn't make the Qur'an offensive generally.
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