May 20 is ‘Everybody Draw Mohammed Day’

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It's still not offensive to me. The sensible thing to do is keep your belief to yourself when you know it is going to illicit such a response.

Well it definately matters to me me how many people are abused and even killed by Islam under Sharia Law for not adhering to its stupid medievfal beliefs and requirements.

You take an extremist view and apply it to everyone in a given Faith. When you uncover the mass graves of Muslim children slaughtered by Christian Extremeist's it gives you a somewhat different view on extremism in general.

Actually, I dont think I am applying my views to everyone of a given faith, that is quite a proposterous claim that religion defenders keep on making, like 'Oooooooh, youre evil and you think all Muslims are muderous terrorists'.

No, it doesnt work like that, this is how it works:

- Islam is the only religion can be so easily interperated to condone terrorism, violence, and hatred towards non followers of that faith (go go Jihad, holy wars, killing all the kuffar, gays, polytheists and Jews, hey, killing all non muslims can definately be condoned by the koran based on how you choose to interperate it).

- It is also the only religion that imposes a desire to rule politically and force non believers to abide to its absolutely ridiculous rules, and is the only religion today with a mass organised political movement that kills thousands of innocent people for being 'Unislamic', such as atheists, aspostates, gays, and people who have sex outside of marriage (including 13 year old girls who have been raped).

- This world contains lots of stupid people. Stupid people read the koran. Stupid people justify killing / oppressing / hating others in the name of the koran. Stupid people who believe in their interperation that doing these things in the name of the koran is good, wonderful, and required to get into heaven and an eternal paradise with an endless virgin girls teach other stupids to do and believe in the same thing.

- These stupid people have now began spilling over their borders and infecting the rest of the world with their stupid (and violence / terrorism / religion). Yay for multiculturalism and freedom of religion .... Not!

- Oh, and in the Sharia world, acid pwns the skanky whore women that dare to show their face or even leave the house or go to school. They have to be in the home all the time working in the kitchen, doing all the chores, and raising the kids, while completely covered in a mobile tent with a tiny slit for their eyes.

Please note that nowhere have I stated that 'all' muslims are like this. I realise from surveys and public polls that have been carried out that its only like several hundred thousand to a few million that are - or around approximately 75% of Muslims that live in the Sharia world (according to the polls asking Muslims if apostates / gays / rape victims should be stoned to death and each category had around 70-80% of people that said yes they should be stoned to death).

I realise that according to similar public polls carried out in the UK, that this figure is much lower - only around 40-60% of muslims in the UK (depending on which poll you look at) want the same full Sharia Law to be implemented into the UK.

And then, of course, when you look at the actual numbers of terrorists and such people that acually carry out violence in the name of Islam, its probably lower than 1% of all muslims that do that. This is because the remaining 39-59% in the UK, or 69-79% in Sharia countries are just wussy cowards that threaten and try to act all tough and popular by believing that other people should be killed for being 'unislamic', but they themselves are too scared to do it. Instead they simply get to stand in the crowd the next time some 15 year old gay boy is stoned to death, and cheer and enjoy the observation of a nice bloody stoning.

I really do believe that Islam and Muslims can change for the better. They could turn stoning people into a national sport, and pass out chairs, popcorn and hotdogs to all those poor people that have to stand up on their feet to watch the executions without any food to go along with it. These changes would enhance the entertainment provided the next time some evil no good woman is raped, and they would be able to enjoy the execution with popcorm. Mmmmm, nom nom nom!

P.S, what a wonderful peaceful and tolerant religion!
 
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Well it definately matters to me me how many people are abused and even killed by Islam under Sharia Law for not adhering to its stupid medievfal beliefs and requirements.

So all forms of state Islam conform to the Saudi model do they?

It seem that you are opposed to the Saudi Governments institution and interpretation of Islamic Sharia Law which is an understandable and valid position rather than everyone who follows the Muslim faith.

The same criticism can be laid at the feet of Chritianity, Democracy, Communism, Fascism and any number of religious and political movements throughout history. It's a fundamental flaw in the Human Condition, not something that can be laid at the feet of a single ideology or school of thought.
 
You don't need a question to respond to a reply. Try looking at the quoted responses you have. They seem answerable. ;)

I have responded to anything worth responding to. Rhetorical or statements of belief that I do not feel either need a response or will change a specific mindset included.
 
So all forms of state Islam conform to the Saudi model do they?

No, but you do have to admit that all forms of state Islam are pretty low down on the list for personal freedoms and respect for women and homosexuality. Most have quite severe punishments of apostasy and many have very poor human rights records.

I would also disagree with you when you say Islam is "just another religion" and dismiss only Islamism as an ideology. It is very clear from the formation and history of Islam that it was an ideology wrapped around a religion.
 
So all forms of state Islam conform to the Saudi model do they?

Yup, didnt you know that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory

Im really not sure of any Sharia state where it is:

- legal to be gay
- legal to have sex outside marriage
- legal to preach any religion other than Islam to Muslims
- legal for a Muslim to leave Islam or convert to any other religion

The penalty may not be death in all of the countries, but thats only thanks to pressure / outrage from the UN / EU.

If any of those things are legal, then you arent in a Sharia state.
 
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Yup, didnt you know that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory

Im really not sure of any Sharia state where it is:

- legal to be gay
- legal to have sex outside marriage
- legal to preach any religion other than Islam to Muslims
- legal for a Muslim to leave Islam or convert to any other religion

The penalty may not be death in all of the countries, but thats only thanks to pressure / outrage from the UN / EU.

If any of those things are legal, then you arent in a Sharia state.


Not all Muslim states practice sharia. I think you're missing the point here. I don't advocate sharia, neither do a lot of Muslims.

Which is my point, extreme and specific interpretation attributed to an entire religion be it Islam or any other gives a false picture. Many States in that list are Islamic yet Homosexuality is legal. In fact Turkey, an Islamic country have had legalised homosexuality a lot longer than most Western Democracies.
 
Still waiting for your comeback on this.

No, Islamism is a political ideology based on Islam. That is not the same at all.

Islamism turns the bits and pieces within Islam that deal with politics, economics, and military affairs into a sustained and systematic program. They are both one and the same.
 
Still waiting for your comeback on this.



Islamism turns the bits and pieces within Islam that deal with politics, economics, and military affairs into a sustained and systematic program. They are both one and the same.

Waiting for what? I already stated it's not the same. Not all Muslims advocate Islamism or practice it, so proves my point.
 
Not all Muslim states practice sharia. I think you're missing the point here. I don't advocate sharia, neither do a lot of Muslims.

No, but pretty much every muslim state has a poor record when it comes to discrimination. Sharia makes it worse, it isn't however the entire problem. The ideology at it's heart is discriminatory.

Which is my point, extreme and specific interpretation attributed to an entire religion be it Islam or any other gives a false picture. Many States in that list are Islamic yet Homosexuality is legal. In fact Turkey, an Islamic country have had legalised homosexuality a lot longer than most Western Democracies.

Homosexuality may well be legal, but legality is only half the issue. Even Turkey has massive discrimination against homosexuals.
 
No, but pretty much every muslim state has a poor record when it comes to discrimination. Sharia makes it worse, it isn't however the entire problem. The ideology at it's heart is discriminatory.

The same can be said for other ideologies both religious and political. It is not exclusive to Islam.



Homosexuality may well be legal, but legality is only half the issue. Even Turkey has massive discrimination against homosexuals.

As do most, if not all Western Democracies including our own. Again it is not exclusive to Islam.
 
The same can be said for other ideologies both religious and political. It is not exclusive to Islam.





As do most, if not all Western Democracies including our own. Again it is not exclusive to Islam.

I've asked this before... But don't think I got a clear answer. According to general Islamic belief, do homosexuals go to hell?
 
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