Drink Driving

I don't drink much to begin with, last two times were 6 months apart but I will never, ever, drink and drive. I don't care how much I've had.
 
It's a really big problem over here. This coupled with the fact that 15 year old kids can drive makes the roads a dangerous place to be sometimes. I'll have a bottle of beer but no more if I'm driving. I can't even remember the last time I was out and also had the car though.
 
I don't understand what you expected her friends to do? Pry the car keys from her cold dead fingers? :p

People will do stupid things, it's a fact of life.

It is really not something I'd ever consider doing, but My father thinks that it is perfectly fine to drive after 2/3 cans of industrial strength Cider. I've asked him not to do it countless times but he ignores me, so other than doing my best to keep him off of the road (offering to chaffer him about) there really is not much more that I can do.

"disable" his car, I'm sure you're more than capable.

I unfortunately had the experience of witnessing the direct aftermath of a drink driving crash, as the first person (and first aid qualified person) on the scene. Having to lean over a wreckage of a car you can't even recognise (and thats very rare for me, it was a Clio!) only to feel no pulse on a 19year old kid's body certainly put things into perspective. 2 died that night.

Now, I refuse to even touch alcohol before I drive - which was looked upon as a very strange thing when I was in South Africa, where everyone does it.
 
"disable" his car, I'm sure you're more than capable.

I unfortunately had the experience of witnessing the direct aftermath of a drink driving crash, as the first person (and first aid qualified person) on the scene. Having to lean over a wreckage of a car you can't even recognise (and thats very rare for me, it was a Clio!) only to feel no pulse on a 19year old kid's body certainly put things into perspective. 2 died that night.

Now, I refuse to even touch alcohol before I drive - which was looked upon as a very strange thing when I was in South Africa, where everyone does it.

Nasty experience no doubt. A school friend of mine lost his life to a drunk driver (friend was cycling in France).

Another friend lost his liscence in very unusual circumstances and I did feel for him. He had been at a wedding and was invited to stay overnight at the house it had been held at (marquee job). So parked up and drank, no intention of driving, hooked up with an 18 year old bridesmade (he was about 21 at the time), father of bridesmade catches them in flagrante, father of bridesmade says WTF are you doing with my 15 year old daughter!!! who had lied about her age, threatens to kill my mate and seemed to mean it, chased him out to his car, gets in, drives off, crashes into a wall, arrested, loses liscence, makes the paper, neighbour burns out his car in mob-vengence!

I know he felt his life was genuinely threatened and it was just flee rather than fight. Only person I know who has drunk drive with something of a valid excuse (and as I understand it they considered this when deciding on sentance)
 
after 3 pages the answer is still simple...."dont drink or drive even if it is one pint"

you will be the one who has to live with a death on your hands for the rest of your life is something happens.
 
I don't ever drink if I'm driving. The reason the majority of people drink is for the effect it has on them, one of which is slowing your reactions. So I don't understand why people say they will have just one pint. Your drinking something you know is going to reduce your ability to drive. It's not a balancing act, you either drink or you drive.

I realise there is a middle ground, and for the majority a pint will leave you still perfectly capable of driving, but your licence, and possibly more, is not something you should have to gamble every time you drink.
 
I think the stigma around it is largely justified.

How?

Even the government stats show that there are barely any fatalities from drink driving..

Its really not as bad as the silly scare tactic "adverts" on TV.

Just goes to show how suggestable most of the population are.

Im sure most people have driven whilst hammered at least once in their lives, if anything you tend to drive more carefully and slowly if you are drunk.

Its the same as the speeding syndrome isnt it? As soon as you are doing anything over 100mph you have the morons coming out of the woodwork and declaring that you were lucky not to mow down a line of schoolchildren :rolleyes:

Drink driving only really poses a danger to yourself first and foremost, and in the majority of remote Scottish locations in the Highlands and Islands, drink driving is an essential way of getting home.
 
Im sure most people have driven whilst hammered at least once in their lives, if anything you tend to drive more carefully and slowly if you are drunk.

Hilarious.

TangoSixteen said:
Its the same as the speeding syndrome isnt it? As soon as you are doing anything over 100mph you have the morons coming out of the woodwork and declaring that you were lucky not to mow down a line of schoolchildren :rolleyes:

You're right there. Nothing bad ever happens when people speed.

TangoSixteen said:
Drink driving only really poses a danger to yourself first and foremost, and in the majority of remote Scottish locations in the Highlands and Islands, drink driving is an essential way of getting home.

WTF.
 
How?

Even the government stats show that there are barely any fatalities from drink driving..

Its really not as bad as the silly scare tactic "adverts" on TV.

Just goes to show how suggestable most of the population are.

Im sure most people have driven whilst hammered at least once in their lives, if anything you tend to drive more carefully and slowly if you are drunk.

Its the same as the speeding syndrome isnt it? As soon as you are doing anything over 100mph you have the morons coming out of the woodwork and declaring that you were lucky not to mow down a line of schoolchildren :rolleyes:

Drink driving only really poses a danger to yourself first and foremost, and in the majority of remote Scottish locations in the Highlands and Islands, drink driving is an essential way of getting home.

Really, if you are unable to make sense it's best to say nothing.
 
How?

Even the government stats show that there are barely any fatalities from drink driving..

Its really not as bad as the silly scare tactic "adverts" on TV.

Just goes to show how suggestable most of the population are.

Im sure most people have driven whilst hammered at least once in their lives, if anything you tend to drive more carefully and slowly if you are drunk.

Its the same as the speeding syndrome isnt it? As soon as you are doing anything over 100mph you have the morons coming out of the woodwork and declaring that you were lucky not to mow down a line of schoolchildren :rolleyes:

Drink driving only really poses a danger to yourself first and foremost, and in the majority of remote Scottish locations in the Highlands and Islands, drink driving is an essential way of getting home.

:eek:

I've read some ill informed guff in my time, but that by far tops it for as long as I can remember.
 
My mum was run over with 2 of her friends on the way back from a night out, they were 19 ish at the time. A drunk driver mounted the pavement and mowed them down!

I would quite happily let drunk drivers rot in prison. Stupid *****!
 
How?

Even the government stats show that there are barely any fatalities from drink driving..

Its really not as bad as the silly scare tactic "adverts" on TV.

Just goes to show how suggestable most of the population are.

Im sure most people have driven whilst hammered at least once in their lives, if anything you tend to drive more carefully and slowly if you are drunk.

Its the same as the speeding syndrome isnt it? As soon as you are doing anything over 100mph you have the morons coming out of the woodwork and declaring that you were lucky not to mow down a line of schoolchildren :rolleyes:

Drink driving only really poses a danger to yourself first and foremost, and in the majority of remote Scottish locations in the Highlands and Islands, drink driving is an essential way of getting home.

Did someone dare you to write this post?
 
How?

Even the government stats show that there are barely any fatalities from drink driving..

Its really not as bad as the silly scare tactic "adverts" on TV.

Just goes to show how suggestable most of the population are.

Im sure most people have driven whilst hammered at least once in their lives, if anything you tend to drive more carefully and slowly if you are drunk.

Its the same as the speeding syndrome isnt it? As soon as you are doing anything over 100mph you have the morons coming out of the woodwork and declaring that you were lucky not to mow down a line of schoolchildren :rolleyes:

Drink driving only really poses a danger to yourself first and foremost, and in the majority of remote Scottish locations in the Highlands and Islands, drink driving is an essential way of getting home.

I hope you never have children for the sake of the human race.
 
Why?

Everything I have said is true.

Drink driving isnt the pure evil its made out to be, anyone that thinks so has been conditioned by goverment propaganda.

Take the drink out of the equation and people will still have accidents.

Drink driving accounts for less than 10% of all road fatalities.

Rougly 3500 fatalities a year, 336 caused by drink driving.

Hardly the demon its made out to be is it??

People need to keep things in perspective.. sure its a silly thing to do... but its just one factor in MANY. Look at the Passionford guy for instance... stupid people do stupid things, the drinking is just a tiny part of it.

I feel sorry for people that are so suggestable that they talk with such venom about this topic, when in reality its not that big a deal.

On the whole people are pretty sensible, and most serious drink driving incedents are with young people. Most of the older people are collared the morning after or coming home from a meal out with friends having had too large a glass of wine for instance.

In addition, Drink driving is perfectly legal. The only illegal part is driving whilst over the prescribed limit... So I think people need to be more specific when using this phrase, as I would imagine probably 98% of people have drink driven at some point even if its just a pint.

There is nothing wrong with having a pint and driving, I dont understand all the crybabies and do gooders saying its drink OR drive, when the law clearly states you are allowed to do both, perfectly legally.

Really what it boils down to has nothing to do with alcohol.. its stupidity. The people that get into a car after some pills and booze, are the sorts of people that would quite easily put other peoples lives in danger when they are sober...
 
I have had 2 pints and drove home, was silly and never done it since and never will.

What makes you think that was silly?

The Government propaganda? Medical facts? Peer pressure?

After two pints you were probably perfectly entitled and legally allowed to drive. If you had spent at least 30mins to an hour over your two pints you would have been WELL under the limit unless you were 4st or had a medical condition with regards to your digestion or liver...
 
In addition, Drink driving is perfectly legal. The only illegal part is driving whilst over the prescribed limit...

*snip*

There is nothing wrong with having a pint and driving, I dont understand all the crybabies and do gooders saying its drink OR drive, when the law clearly states you are allowed to do both, perfectly legally.
Most sense said in this thread so far...
 
How many hours on the road are spent by people driving under the limit compared to over the limit? Until you can answer that question, possibly also correlating the road types, saying over-the-limit drink driving is irrelevant because it only accounts for 10% of crashes is pointless. In other words, we need an indication of relative risk.
 
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