Bullying - Who's in the wrong here?

Whether he's bullied or not regularly is irrelevant. Going by just what we see in the video, fat boy was well within his rights to stop the threat to his person and if a full on body slam was the method he chose to protect himself, **** the little **** who thought he was a bit tasty with the boxing skills.
 
I work in a school, I consider myself hardly naive.

Your personal experience doesn't mean you are automatically correct Nix. I was also bullied, a large amount of people that attended school were bullied in some form or another.

No, but you're assuming that it's a simple process that once a victim reaffirms themself, that bullying will stop and nor could there possibly be any other alternative. That is an error in your logic and also not helping to tackle bullying at all as you're assuming that A will always lead to B, when it does not. My own experience invalidates your assertion.

If you're not naive then what are you? Logically flawed, simply incorrect, or ignorant?

The simple fact is that bullying is not a one-size-fits-all situation and neither is the appropriate response or indeed, social repurcussions that are derived from it.
 
I understand,

But...what if that day, the bullied kid didnt react, he got a few more punches, and walked home. When he got home, he was so fed up of being bullied everyday, that he hung himself? Something that happens from bullying far too often.

So the bully can keep bullying the kid, with the chance he may take his own life, but its worse for the bullied kid to react and snap and possibly paralyse the bully?

I know I know, like I said I'm torn. In this thread I have posted both sides of the coin and both arguments are reasonable.

@james.miller

I do not believe people are born angry.

Fine I don't know that he has been bullied in the past, however I do know, from now onwards he will not be,

And for the future of a kid not being bullied and having a nice childhood for the cost of some little skinny **** who deserves everything he gets getting his ankle broken, I think that's fine.
 
Also, What does the kid do right after he has slammed the other kid down? Does he continue to try and destroy him? No, he stands back then walks off.
 
The little kid got what he deserved as in taking down a peg or two.

All you people saying "what if" and the big kid "over reacted" get real !

Put your self in the big kids shoes, he'd just been smacked full in the face and was potentialy going to be kept getting it in the face, his adreninlin would have been pumping full throttle ... he was acting on instinct when he slammed the little kid down onto the floor, then stood back, if he'd had been thinking at the time you would have seen him stamping all over that little kids head and potentialy killing him.

It's hard for some one like him, he maybe gets picked on because he's a big lad then when he does defend himself he's seen to be going to far because he's bigger than the other kids...

Mouthy little git got what he deserved and imo he got off light because he was at the big kids mercy when he got concrete slammed ..
 
Yeah he should have taken the time to really consider what kind of smackdown would be the appropriate response taking into account all the local laws and ethical issues. That'd work.

Exactly.

I'd wager that "I'd better not drop him too hard in case I seriously harm him" wasn't at the forefront of his mind when upending scrawny kid.

It was an instinctive reaction, not a Health and Safety Assessment.


Whilst I agree that he wasn't going to query the force, angle of attack, height to raise the guy, surface... during is rage, I disagree with the emphasis coming across as if it was perfectly normal way of doing the rage.

Few people have said well deserved, but there could've been some serious injury etc.

No defense on the bully, good job the kid done that and has hopefully cleared the bullies and made his life back on track - my point was simply it was on the verge of getting his life back on track (bully w/ minor injurys) or life with a guilty concious etc.
 
i cant believe people are approving that. standing up and defending yourself is one thing, but the rate that large kid turned and slammed that other kid in to the concrete is...concerning to say the least. It would appear, at least from the video, that he has a serious anger problem. that's not good for anybody, let alone somebody who's clearly a mountain compare to the other kids.

Mate, Im sorry...but have you been smoking something funny?

I apologise in advance for the way im about to come off, but you obviously dont have a Scooby Doo about what youre talking about!

An anger problem. I dont know many people with an anger problem that will take a clean shot to the face unprovoked and do nothing about it. The sad thing is, had the kid only punched him and walked away, the bullied kid most likely will have done nothing about it! He kept taunting him though. His actions werent premeditated. Yeah he is a large kid, but that has hardly worked in his favour considering he was BEING BULLIED! So, because he is bigger than the other kids, he should be allowed to be punched in the face...but he isnt allowed to get angry at this fact.

Im sorry, but you sir....are a fool!
 
No, but you're assuming that it's a simple process that once a victim reaffirms themself, that bullying will stop and nor could there possibly be any other alternative. That is an error in your logic and also not helping to tackle bullying at all as you're assuming that A will always lead to B, when it does not. My own experience invalidates your assertion.

If you're not naive then what are you? Logically flawed, simply incorrect, or ignorant?

The simple fact is that bullying is not a one-size-fits-all situation and neither is the appropriate response or indeed, social repurcussions that are derived from it.

I agree, bullying doesn't follow a flow chart at all. It pops it's head up and appears in different forms.

From your response to another poster it sounds like you still have hang ups about your time in school.
 
Mate, Im sorry...but have you been smoking something funny?

I apologise in advance for the way im about to come off, but you obviously dont have a Scooby Doo about what youre talking about!

An anger problem. I dont know many people with an anger problem that will take a clean shot to the face unprovoked and do nothing about it. The sad thing is, had the kid only punched him and walked away, the bullied kid most likely will have done nothing about it! He kept taunting him though. His actions werent premeditated. Yeah he is a large kid, but that has hardly worked in his favour considering he was BEING BULLIED! So, because he is bigger than the other kids, he should be allowed to be punched in the face...but he isnt allowed to get angry at this fact.

Im sorry, but you sir....are a fool!

excuse me? the kid snapped and flew at him. if you cant see an anger problem then you must have been watching a different video.

Now, elaborate. what EXACTLY do i have no clue about? being bullied? anger issues? what? or are you just talking **** ? read what i said and take it in before replying and i'll give you a clue - what do you think i did when i slammed that kids head in to a wall? i walked to class..

But sure, I dont have a clue lol. Stand and bang indeed.
 
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excuse me? the kid snapped and flew at him. if you cant see an anger problem then you must have been watching a different video.

Now, elaborate. what EXACTLY do i have no clue about? being bullied? anger issues? what? or are you just talking **** ?

Okay, you're a kid that is getting bullied, you have always been a 'large' kid.

Little scrawny kid comes up to you and starts calling you names,

Anger builds

People around are standing by watching, doing nothing,

Anger builds

You are also being recorded

Anger builds

Kid punches you in the face, doesn't really hurt cuz the kid is about 5 stone,

Still anger builds

Kid is jumping on his toes thinking he's a ****ing boxer and thinking he's acting hard in front of his friends

Anger builds again

The kid keeps taking swings at you

And snap.

TBF I think the kid had good self control to last as long as he did before he snapped. You are a fool if you think he has anger issues.
 
little thing, if you're surrounded, not fast enough to get away and someone is hitting you and they don't appear to be about to stop hitting you retaliating isn't an anger issue, it's common sense.
 
This is similar to that video where the chav is harassing a guy at this front door. Guy stands there and takes the abuse but when the chav starts getting violent and tearing up his garden, guy judo chops him into submission.

Would you say he had an anger problem also?
 
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