** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **
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Looking even more likely that Demba Ba will be signing for Newcastle on a free from West Ham and the rumour going around is that he'll be on.... £70,000 a week
That seems like good business to me. They have money to burn so will be worried about inflated fees. He seems to have done well in the PL so far. It makes sense.
Totally agree (although Alan Smith could be a convenient example - 2 successful seasons at Leeds, 3 at Utd, and then Newcastle ......I wonder whether he earned mega money -for the time, not compared to now - for very long at all)
All Im saying is that wiith no disrespect to Newcastle, that transfer was a big step down - so his top flight career a very short time in his football careeer in total. Maybe Leeds' success was longer than Im giving credit for , in which case fair enough - (and even then majority of his time at Utd he was a utility /squad player, or injured rather than 1st choice, which would have a factor in earning less also).
Just as a random example it would be a fascinating comparison to know how much someone like Silvestre earnt at Utd over his career at the club between 99 - 08 as I would suspect majority of those years would have been on middle of the road wages rather than mega money (for the time)
Or a squad player from another non-top 4 club in the same period who stayed around for a decent length of time
Wold be interesting addition , one for the future for certain. ......it is talkSport though lol
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Defour and Nasri could work.
I can actually believe the Defour links, given he'll be relatively cheap and Fergie sent him those love letters when he was injured
Never seen him play before though, what is he? Defensive, Offensive or just Fletcher like (i.e. likes to run around)?
Never seen him play before though, what is he? Defensive, Offensive or just Fletcher like (i.e. likes to run around)?
According to wiki, 13 goals in 124 matches, so Carrick like
124 games in 5 years says he's got a bit of Hargreaves about him too
I understand he is more offensive - although I havent seen any live games of his either
I remember reading about the letter at the time
Would really like one big name signing though - Utd have so far (nearly) signed a lot of promising players with little top level experience. Not doubting any can step up to the level required, but would like one CM thats the finished article (or a lot nearer anyway)
I was thinking that sounded ok - then realised thats only approx every other game, although those stats arent helped with 6 months + out with the broken leg
I remember reading about the letter at the time
Would really like one big name signing though - Utd have so far (nearly) signed a lot of promising players with little top level experience. Not doubting any can step up to the level required, but would like one CM thats the finished article (or a lot nearer anyway)
124 games in 5 years says he's got a bit of Hargreaves about him too
I was thinking that sounded ok - then realised thats only approx every other game, although those stats arent helped with 6 months + out with the broken leg
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According to wiki, 13 goals in 124 matches, so Carrick like
I'm not really fussed about goal return tbh, even those that people think have a great goal return (i.e. Sneijder generally dont get into double figures in a given season), besides which we've got plenty of goals in the wide areas and with our strikers for it not to be a problem
I would say only Rooney, Hernandez, Berba and Nani are the only real goal threats in our side. You never feel as though Valencia or Fletcher and the rest of the midfield players will come up with more than the odd goal or two.
I reckon Valencia is good for 7 or 8 goals a season, he's shown that in his 2 years at the club, Young has certainly got goals in him as well especially from set pieces which we've been lacking in since Ronnie left
you are of course welcome to your opinion - but I cant agree with you on that at all.
Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and to a certain extent City have good scoring records from midfield (admitttedly Im only sure about Toure for City from last season, not sure before that) but the others have 10, 15 or 20 goals a season from one CM player season after season, without even considering other CM players in those teams
United HAVE missed this for far too long - yes we get goals from out wide, but there must be loads of simple chances not put away by Utd as there is never a CM following into the box like the other teams (like Scholes used to do a number of years ago, although maybe not in the numbers mentioned above)
Maybe Utd would still lose games like the Liverpool game etc etc, but its still a huge loss compared to our close rivals (without even considering that Nani could be a makeweight in any deal......if rumours are true)
Admittedly Young should be a good dead ball addition as well as in open play but even so CM goals have to come back into Utd's game imo
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This is a very very big stretch of the imagination. Firstly as Chelsea were building, they didn't buy Ballack/Deco/Sheva, they were bought well after Chelsea had started winning titles. Secondly, even though those guys were huge names, none of them have come close to getting the wages that say Yaya got, infact, Milner probably signed with a similar wage to some of those guys.
Ballack was actually VERY good for Chelsea, the other two were pap. But you seem to forget you got Vieira, who is on more than any of Chelsea's "old guys" were on, Sylvinho. Deco and Sheva offered more than those two have frankly, and likely on significantly lower wages.
Lampard, Cole, Gallas, Cole, Drogba, Anelka weren't very old when Chelsea got them, they were quite young and they've played or had played there for a long time. Guess what, in 7-8 years Milner, De Jong, Yaya, etc, etc, won't be very young either.
City have unquestionably, I mean without any doubt thrown more money at every position than Chelsea. The wage list for the end of this season and next season will tell a VERY different story in terms of Chelsea/City wages.
Don't forget, most players will be making 5-10% a year wage rise, a lot of Chelsea's squad has been getting pay rises for, well, best part of a decade, City's squad is essentially brand new. How much will Yaya be on in another 3 years, probably triggering a champs league bonus for qualification and a higher wage in champs league seasons.
There's only 2 centre midfielders in world football that almost guarantee 20 goals a season Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard, you will not find another one in world football that does it year in year out like they do and both of those failed to get anywhere near 20 goals last season blame injury if you want but the fact that both will be a year older this coming season it's only a matter of time before the goals dry up for them completely like they did for Scholes.
Fabregas seems to have one really good goal scoring season followed by a really bad one so you cant include him either.
You mention Toure but other than him and Tevez who else do City have? So what City may have in Toure they lack by not having any other strikers who can hit a barn door.
Even the almighty Barcelona dont get many goals from their midfield, it's just the way the game has changed now.
But they have bags of creativity, which is something United have been lacking for a good few years.
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