** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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Being an outspoken Chelsea fan and disliked on the football boards, I'm sure I'll wake up to many counter-arguments come the morning. I would love it if you could construct a strong argument with regards to why Tevez isn't a massive ****


Why exactly does wanting to move to a different club in a different location make him a **** though?

Was he crap at City, no, did they get good value out of him, yes, is he walking for free and screwing a club while putting them in massive debt...... no.

He'll leave at a higher price than he joined, after two fantastic years, without him being either top scorer in the league or very close they'd not likely have made it into the champs league.

Where has he done something wrong exactly? People go places, try things and it doesn't make you a **** to decide you don't like it and try something else.

Every person who has ever left a job they didn't like for one they wanted more is a ****?

He hasn't screwed the club over in any way, he's put in two fantastic years, he wants to move, please point out where in that sequence of events, he murdered/raped someone or somehow got paid unfairly for a job he did badly?

Without all the drama it boils down to, player joins City, has two great years, player moves on(likely for a higher fee than he joined for).
 
A couple of papers saying City have pretty much signed Nasri.... Ah well another one to chalke off the list :(
 
Given the way some of the signings are going this summer and general shift of power in the Premier League, it wouldn't surprise me if Arsenal were to be looking to hang on to fourth spot in the League next season.

City and United have both brought in players to help them improve, Chelsea no doubt will, Spurs need a few finishing touches and Liverpool are looking to mean business, Arsenal are almost sprinting backwards at this pace.
 
Given the way some of the signings are going this summer and general shift of power in the Premier League, it wouldn't surprise me if Arsenal were to be looking to hang on to fourth spot in the League next season.

City and United have both brought in players to help them improve, Chelsea no doubt will, Spurs need a few finishing touches and Liverpool are looking to mean business, Arsenal are almost sprinting backwards at this pace.


Definitely agree. I have no love for Arsenal, but i almost feel sorry for their supporters now. I have mates who support them and always point to the great football they play to defend them always coming up short. I don't see it anymore.

Play everything through the middle, very easy for a decent defense to keep them out. i don't understand the way Arsenal supporters are always saying that they are a team of the future and "he will be a great player" etc, when as soon as the player reaches maturity, or starts improving, they leave!

Wenger seems to be holding them back. I read Kenny Samson today saying that they probably need to bring 5 players in to compete with the others. I think he is being optimistic tbh.

Is it true that Wenger had the funds to buy players last season but refused to pay the rate for some players? I heard he had around £30million left unspent? (just a rumour though)
 
Given the way some of the signings are going this summer and general shift of power in the Premier League, it wouldn't surprise me if Arsenal were to be looking to hang on to fourth spot in the League next season.

City and United have both brought in players to help them improve, Chelsea no doubt will, Spurs need a few finishing touches and Liverpool are looking to mean business, Arsenal are almost sprinting backwards at this pace.

Personally I don't think Liverpool have improved at all yet, and if Merieles leaves they'll have gone backwards, Meireles to Henderson, a fit Torres(looking start of last season vs this) for Carroll, both backwards by quite a large step. Realistically with Carroll/Suarez up top that leaves kuyt on the wing which means Adams/Downing for either Cole/Maxi, if Cole leaves, which is an upgrade, but not really a Euro vs Champs league improvement.

City, good enough already really, Clichy's an improvement but really the story of the window for them will be either getting a replacement who can perform as Tevez did, or Dzeko stepping up his game big time next season. The spine is the same, Nasri may or may not be an improvement. You'll find he's less effective than Johnson as an actual winger, but would be a step up if he replaces Barry or Milner alongside De Jong, he's really just not that good.

Utd, Young is going to be immense for them, they are losing good players who were settled in the team and likely had a big impact in training and having a settled keeper who is comftable with their defence. A new keeper in a defence, one that might not be fluent in English and may play a different style can be a HUGE change. While I think the signings have been very good I think they could take a while to settle into that team. Add a very strong central midfield, or even two and they'll have strengthened significantly though.


Arsenal though Clichy, Nasri and Fabregas, we have no one to replace any of them in their positions, we can not get a Fabregas replacement, no one remotely close to his quality is available. Clichy can be replaced, Nasri with the right player could be a large improvement.

Its all whats and if's though, if Arsenal just play Denilson more, we're screwed, if we bring in say Mata for Nasri as a winger, its likely a big improvement.
 
Play everything through the middle, very easy for a decent defense to keep them out. i don't understand the way Arsenal supporters are always saying that they are a team of the future and "he will be a great player" etc, when as soon as the player reaches maturity, or starts improving, they leave!


Is it true that Wenger had the funds to buy players last season but refused to pay the rate for some players? I heard he had around £30million left unspent? (just a rumour though)

Hard to know, some board members who have left have suggested that Arsenal have made a mint and the board has just sucked it all out of the club, others say Wengers had millions to spend, neither is right nor wrong.

What frustrates me as a fan is spunking 60k a week on Eboue, to not play, 60k a week on Diaby, to be injured, or epically awful when he does player, Denilson probably 40k a week to be completley useless, Theo 60k a week to be useless, Nasri being offered a 100k salary, for being useless for half the season.

You don't have to spend 30mil on a new central midfielder, but sell Denilson save 40k a week, bring in 3 18year olds on 10k a week, SAVE money and if just one of them turns into a good player we've done great, if they all suck, try again we've still saved money.

Its persisting with players everyone else in the entire universe can see aren't good enough that completely winds me up.

We could spend 30mil, or 3 youngsters on free transfer, admiting Denilson isn't good enough and TRYING to improve and failing and I'd be happy. NOt being able to recognise Denilson sucks, and not even trying to improve while peeing money down the drain is simply incompetant.

AS you said, we don't remotely play the best football in the league, passing sideways for 45minutes, anyone can do that, breaking down defenses while passing and being creative AND having an end product is a very different thing. You only need to watch clips of Arsenal with Pires/Henry at their best, vs now to see two very very different teams, same STYLE of football, completely different quality of football though.

People just see us pass a lot and think its the same football, the style hasn't changed, the quality most certainly has.
 
a fit Torres(looking start of last season vs this) for Carroll, both backwards by quite a large step.


Is Torres going to get back to the amazing form of the season before last though? Personally, i think he will, but it is by no means a certainty. IMO, Bringing in Suarez and Carrol for the price of Torres is an improvement. I think Suarez will score shedloads next season. It was a gamble, but i have seen enough of them to convince me that they will be good signings.
 
AS you said, we don't remotely play the best football in the league, passing sideways for 45minutes, anyone can do that, breaking down defenses while passing and being creative AND having an end product is a very different thing. You only need to watch clips of Arsenal with Pires/Henry at their best, vs now to see two very very different teams, same STYLE of football, completely different quality of football though.

People just see us pass a lot and think its the same football, the style hasn't changed, the quality most certainly has.


The more defensively savvy teams/managers in the league i actually think i would bet to beat arsenal (or at least not get beaten) Stoke/Fulham even Wolves i would expect to at least run Arsenal close and not conced many.

I wish i could find the article by Kenny Samson, it was very interesting. There was another article i read basically saying that there are talks behind the scenes at Arsenal with people aeriously questioning whether any of their younsters are good enough to eventually play in the first team.

The main gist of it was "how many of the 16 players out on loan last season will ever play for Arsenal again"

Also, apparantly Nasri was being payed less than Almunia?
 
I would love Sanchez at OT, but we still desperately need a creative centre mid.

Sneijder is too costly in wages (from a wage structure point of view as much as actual cost), and Sanchez - for such an inexperienced player, is probably too costly (and has his heart set on Barca)

Modric would be perfect (but still no gaurentee Spurs will sell - and possibly / probably the exact opposite without a REALLY silly price being offiered) so IF Utd do get someone in its more likely going to be a young pretender rather than the finished article (not that Sanchez falls into that catagory either lol)
 
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