** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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With the papers this morning saying Mordic wants Chelsea again and Nasri is about to sign for City it'll be interesting to see who else they dredge up for United to be interested in. Especially since I think The mirror was saying Nasri to United was a cert.

Also the Fail reported yesterday that Chelsea are open to selling Mikel to Juventus for £15m.
 
This is what Kenny Sansom was saying:

"I think the club have got to take a little bit of a chance and buy at least five players," he added.

"I think he's interested in a young goalkeeper; I think we definitely need another centre-half; a midfield player that can run into the box a bit like Paul Scholes who can score goals from crosses; and a centre-forward who can hopefully score a few goals with his head.

"That's where they need strengthening and maybe one out-and-out left-sided player. Arshavin on his day can be a little bit special, but I don't think he'll be getting in the team too much next season."

I'd agree with the left sided player, we need one because there's no way that Arshavin should be used as a winger, if Nasri is sold then we'll almost certainly have to buy someone, I don't see who else can play there and I sincerely hope Wenger isn't planning on Rosicky and Arshavin sharing the left wing.

His other comments though I don't really think are right. He says we're looking at a young goalkeeper when both Fabianski and Szczesny are young for keepers, also Mannone. The midfielders who can score from crosses, I'm not sure what he means, if he means headed goals then we don't play that way, there's no point bringing in tall central midfielders if we won't be using their physical attributes. As for the forward who can score with his head, Chamakh is well over 6 foot and he's scored a few headers already I believe, so I don't really agree with the majority of what he said.
 
With the papers this morning saying Mordic wants Chelsea again and Nasri is about to sign for City it'll be interesting to see who else they dredge up for United to be interested in. Especially since I think The mirror was saying Nasri to United was a cert.

Also the Fail reported yesterday that Chelsea are open to selling Mikel to Juventus for £15m.

maybe its just me being hopeful - but I always got the sense of Modric wanting out " to Chelsea" because they are the only club to have actually offered anything officially (yes I know his family is settled in London, but it isnt that huge a leap to Manchester, and in certain respects some of the countryside is actually nicer)

I dont know which is worse value for money Carroll for £35m of Mikel for £15m lol
 
Yeah now i think of it, that wasn't the bit i found interesting about it. That interview was a part of one of those SkySports News rolling features they have throughout the day.

It was mainly asking whether Arsenal can compete next season if they lose Fabregas and Nasri (seems inevitable now) and it spoke to Kenny Samson and Glenn Hoddle among others(Wenger managed him a t Monacco i believe).
It was very interesting, i don't know if you can see it somewhere on Sky Sports or something.

They seemed to suggest that the board were pretty out of touch and that Wenger may even have too much freedom. They also touched on Wenger's policy of buying cheap but offering very high wages to untested players, suggesting that it actually costs more in the long run.
Also, as i mentioned earlier, There seem to be rumblings behind the scene with people questioning the quality of their current yough players.

Here is another article about the future for Arsenal. I think it has some good points.- http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,15964_7018157,00.html


For those supporters long-since exasperated by an Arsenal side which is a perpetual work in progress, Wenger has become no better than the cowboy builder who promises the kitchen extension will be complete tomorrow ad infinitum

I agree with this. Though it may be a little dramatic, it does seem that Wenger and his supporters do ususally end up saying "next season we will be great"
 
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It terms of Nasri, it really depends on who the paper gets their News from. The Daily Mail/Sun get it from Dein/Man City, hence why he's claimed to have signed. Or if you read the Mirror, who get their news from Arsenal he's not for sale.
 
I don't support Arsenal, but i do not want to see them fall behind as i believe they are in great danger of doing. I greatly admire Arsene Wenger for what he has achieved, even though i do not raelly like the way in which Arsenal now play, or as Drunkenmaster said maybe it is just a decline in the quality of players.

IMO, 2 centrebacks and 2 central midfielders are essential. Wide players are almost wasted on Arsenal really, though they really do need a winger who can deliver once he goes past his man. Someone like Ashley Young:p
 
I don't know how long I've been telling people transfer fee's are the SMALLEST part of the cost of a player and wages are what everythings about. Again look at UTD, los Ronaldo get huge fee, don't buy, shift 2-3 senior players freeing up huge amount of wage funds, buy like theres no tomorrow.

As for Arsenal's youth team, again I've been saying for nigh on 10 years, our youth team is a joke, Randall was clear as day 7 years ago never, ever going to play for Arsenals first team, we've probably handed him 3-4mil in wages over 7 years, and we just finally released him this summer. The Hoytes, etc, Lansbury MIGHT just make some impact but he's likely to be more of a Bentley not good enough so after years of paying him too much, more than he'd make anywhere else we'll sell him for next to nothing.

Almost every one of our first team players who are young, are bought from 18-21 and put straight in the first team, on higher wages than anyone else in the league at the same age(mostly but not always).

You need to ignore transfer fee's, it means little, wage spending Arsenal have been VERY solidly in the top 4 every season for a decade, and as such finishing in the top 4 should be assured, Wenger hasn't been doing well he's been doing exactly what you'd expect for Arsenal.

From what I can recall, we've basically had Ashley Cole and Wilshire come through our youth team into the first team, but we pay an extraordinary amount on our youth team, almost all completely wasted.]

We don't need a centre forward who will score with his head, we need a manager willing to actually put one of our two strikers like that on the pitch. 4-4-2 does not work, in any way shape or form, for this team.

Arshavin at left wing, he's more naturally a central player but he's been more than fine at left back. He got 18 odd assists in all comps and was suffering from being in and out of the team a lot of the year, thats what you want from a winger, not 10 goals and 1 assist.

Arshavin had a bad season, for him, and got 6 goals/18 assists, that basically puts him as the 3rd best player in the team last year behind Fabregas and RVP.


To win things Arsenal need, with CLichy, Fabregas and Nasri gone, a left back, a right back, a centre back, a defensive mid, a uber creative midfield/playmaker, a right winger, a left winger. Denilson, Diaby, Sagna, Song, Squillaci, Chamakh to be sold, and a replacement player for each of them. yay.

Fabregas has been covering so many glaring gaps in quality in the squad for so long, without him our attack will fall apart as it currently is, and our defence is already meh.
 
Now you're wishing him good luck with regards to earning even more money!? You have me confused kiddo.
I am wishing him luck to find a club that will pay what he is worth to us and what he wants because there aren't many. If he wont stay in the Prem that wipes out Chelsea, Inter have said they can't afford him, I doubt Real will want him considering the amount of players they have, Barca want Sanchez and Fabregas. Maybe Anzi will come in for him?
Chances are that he won't leave and so he will end up staying.

How are you confused?
 
I don't support Arsenal, but i do not want to see them fall behind as i believe they are in great danger of doing. I greatly admire Arsene Wenger for what he has achieved, even though i do not raelly like the way in which Arsenal now play, or as Drunkenmaster said maybe it is just a decline in the quality of players.

IMO, 2 centrebacks and 2 central midfielders are essential. Wide players are almost wasted on Arsenal really, though they really do need a winger who can deliver once he goes past his man. Someone like Ashley Young:p

The thing is is that there is absolutely nothing to back this up, and there never is for any of the previous seasons its said.

So far this seems to be based on the fact that we've sold a defender who was pretty rubbish really (countless mistakes in big games like Spurs, ManU, Shaktar etc) and rumours about Nasri and Fab who apparently won't be replaced.

We had a very good season up until the League Cup Final where we imploded a bit and this was without our best defender, who now looks fully fit, and a very very sub par Fabregas. Apparently a lot of the rest of the team were also sub par like Arshavin's million assists and goals and Theo's terrible contribution of goals and assists despite being injured for a fair chunk of the time.

All of the drama and doom is based on nothing at the moment as neither Fabregas nor Nasri have left and if they do, people seem to think we won't replace them which is madness really. Are people really sitting down and thinking about it logically before they post. Does anyone really think Wenger wouldn't bring in replacements if both players left?

Arsenal currently have a very good squad and there is nothing to suggest at the moment, apart from hyperbole, that they won't have a good squad at the start of the coming season. It's not even as though the other top 5-6 teams have done anything amazing so far. Spurs look as likely to lose their best player as we do at the moment.

Also 2 CB's and 2 CMs would be a complete waste of money. We have a crap load of CM's. What we need is a proven striker, 1 CB and replacements for any players leaving.
 
The thing is is that there is absolutely nothing to back this up, and there never is for any of the previous seasons its said.

So far this seems to be based on the fact that we've sold a defender who was pretty rubbish really (countless mistakes in big games like Spurs, ManU, Shaktar etc) and rumours about Nasri and Fab who apparently won't be replaced.

I personally think it is more to do with the fact that all of Arsenal's direct competitors are strengthening whereas Arsenal are not.

Pray tell, where will you find a replacement for Fabregas? Someone that can come in and have the impact he has? I seriously doubt you could manage that for Nasri never mind Fab.
 
I don't think Arsenal will drop out massively at all, I mean Man U imo are the only ones that have strengthened considerably:
- Chelsea have all got a year older, people have realised Luiz is actually not a very good CB and Torres still hasn't found form
- City have strengthened slightly but not necessarily in a hugely important area and Tevez's state of mind may hinder them
- Liverpool haven't really strengthened and if they lose Mereiles, who was class at times, for Henderson, they've probably weakened
- Tottenham (imho) won't be competing unless they buy a competent striker.
 
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