** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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How have Chelsea strengthen? Spurs? Liverpool splashed £20m on an average youngster.

Chelsea are sorting out their management/coaching team. I'm not surprised they haven't dipped into the market yet.

They're not weakening themselves in their competitor's favour though. Clichy has gone to City, it looks like Nasri might go the same way and if Fab goes too, there simply isn't anyone they can sign to replace them.

Ashley Young will strengthen manyoo, IMO Henderson will strengthen Liverpool (Ngog going the other way certainly will/would), Liverpool appear to be serious about bringing Downing in. Whilst he is no world beater he will more than likely do very well in a side with a good striker up top (which Liverpool have) and yet Arsenal appear to be standing still, again.

I wouldn't have said Spurs were a direct competitor of Arsenal's yet, though they might well be this season :)
 
Kind of hoped we'd get this all wrapped up before pre season started, can't wait to see some games again :)

A-Men to that!!!

(although I will always consder Young as too expensive given the timescale of his AV contract.....its just that IF AV get the required £20m for Downing thats just ludicrous)


Not sure Utd have really strengthened that much , while we have bought players - all who have a lot of potential, none of which really have any experience, and to my mind that is a concern for the coming seasons without experience being added as well. Jones of course will start behind 3 players at least so he is a low risk addition, and could well be a leading player within a couple of years. De Gea was the right choice, but this year and next will probably show just how good VDS was to those that didnt already know (until DG gets a number of games under his belt for Utd, or Van de Gea for those who prefer his nickname)

Im really not sure about Young.....but at least we have added a 2nd British player to the squad after losing 3 in Neville, Scholes and Hargreaves.
 
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I personally think it is more to do with the fact that all of Arsenal's direct competitors are strengthening whereas Arsenal are not.

Pray tell, where will you find a replacement for Fabregas? Someone that can come in and have the impact he has? I seriously doubt you could manage that for Nasri never mind Fab.

I can't see where they have though. Man City have bought Clichy, Liverpool have payed a lot of money for a player who is, at the moment, arguably not as good as a player he may replace, and ManU have bought Young which is probably the biggest bit of business to date. I think he is only as good as a couple of players they already have although its good to have options.

We performed mostly without Fabregas last season. He was either injured or just not playing that well so we can do a job without him. I also don't personally think he is the best option for captain.

As I said its unthinkable that replacements won't come in and that is what a lot of the drama seems to be based on. I can't believe that its based on the fact that we can't do without him when you look at last season.
 
I don't think Arsenal will drop out massively at all, I mean Man U imo are the only ones that have strengthened considerably:
- Chelsea have all got a year older, people have realised Luiz is actually not a very good CB and Torres still hasn't found form
- City have strengthened slightly but not necessarily in a hugely important area and Tevez's state of mind may hinder them
- Liverpool haven't really strengthened and if they lose Mereiles, who was class at times, for Henderson, they've probably weakened
- Tottenham (imho) won't be competing unless they buy a competent striker.

Well said that man.

Some of the comments from fellow Gooners on here make me laugh. OK, we haven't won a trophy for six years, but reading some of the posts here gives the impression that we've just had the worst season ever under Wenger.

Let's be honest, as far as progression in the various competitions last season goes, we did pretty well. Yes, of course we want to win trophies, and yes, we dipped dramatically in the final weeks, but let's put things in perspective. DM clearly wants to buy nearly a completely new first team. Why?

In my eyes, we need a LB to replace Gael, one CB (I expect Koscielny to improve again this year, as he did last season), a top class CM who can play alongside Jack and a striker who can take some of the pressure off RVP. And then maybe one or two squad players to replace the likes of Denilson/Bendtner (but only if they are an improvement).

So that's 5-6 players we need to add to the entire squad, not just to our strongest starting 11. Despite what many say on here, Theo, Song, Rosicky (if he stays fit), Chamakh, Djourou and the likes are good players and I'm perfectly happy with them in the squad.

As for dropping out of the top 4, this comes up every single season, and yet every single season we're still there. StewartMG above has summed it up well.
 
Wenger wont buy replacements. He'll promote youth players from within and replace those instead. If Arsenal do lose Fabregas, Nasri, Bendtner and Denilsen, on top of Clichy, I would be very very surprised if they are top 4 next season. I'm still amazed Gervinho is going anywhere near a top 4 club, he's an ok winger at best, and Arsenal have more than enough of those.
 
Well if Gervinho isn't good enough Arsenal won't have anyone else to blame. They've had him on their radar for years.
 
LOL apparently SSN early this morning denied that Nasri was about to join City and are now saying Chelsea are interested in him (maybe they weren't getting good vibes about Modric?)

Cant see United winning a transfer battle with Chelsea for Nasri or Modric tbh :(
 
I know, I just dont get it. Teams bringing in players that play in positions they have an abundance of talent in, and not strengthening weak spots, in this case with Arsenal, a top class centre back and keeper.
 
Who would your replacements be?

I couldn't possibly tell you but clearly we are not in a position to replace Fabregas like for like as someone of his calibre out there would go to a bigger club. In all honesty a player who wasn't quite up to the level of Fab but still a very good player would have been more use to us last season.

If Nasri doesn't go we possibly have enough in midfield to cope with the loss of Fab imo but the money from his sale would need to be invested heavily at the back and up top. If Nasri goes as well we'd need to invest heavily in a midfielder. I'd rather see a forward, LB and CB come in.
 
How will United be for home grown players next year? Neville, Scholes and Hargreaves all gone with O'Shea, Brown and Gibson possibly going too.

Did the Irish contingent count as home grown? Not sure Hargreaves did either.

tbh I dont fully understand the whole home grown thing but at a guess....

Ferdinand
Jones (does he need to be registered?)
Smalling
Carrick
Fletcher (does a scot count as home grown?)
Evans (see above albeit he aint a scot)
Cleverley
Young
Rooney

That's all off the top of my head
 
It's to do with how long they've been in the country before the age of 21 I believe. So yeah Hargreaves wouldn't count I suppose, pretty sure the Irish/Scottish ones have been with us long enough though.

Can't remember how many you need either!
 
Have they updated FM for the latest rules though? I know CL is 8 but they implimented new rules for the league, where you could only register a certain number of players depending on how many homegrown you had or something.
 
“The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system.” - Richard Scudamore

Suggests that Scotland won't count.

Fletcher however counts becuase he has been at United since he was 11, Evans also went through the academy so will be fine.

Also dont forget Owen is home Grown
 
I couldn't possibly tell you but clearly we are not in a position to replace Fabregas like for like as someone of his calibre out there would go to a bigger club. In all honesty a player who wasn't quite up to the level of Fab but still a very good player would have been more use to us last season.

If Nasri doesn't go we possibly have enough in midfield to cope with the loss of Fab imo but the money from his sale would need to be invested heavily at the back and up top. If Nasri goes as well we'd need to invest heavily in a midfielder. I'd rather see a forward, LB and CB come in.

The run of games without Fabregas playing but with Nasri playing, like several spells after xmas, were shocking with Nasri playing in his role, he is incapable of filling that role.

Replacing Fabregas will essentially take getting lucky on another 16 year old, anyone older will cost 30mil + Fabregas is still massively under rated purely because Arsenal haven't won anything while he's been here. He got the assist in the world cup and euro cup finals, and was excellent in both tournaments. He is irreplacable, that doesn't mean the team can't improve but it means other players will have to take up the slack.

I don't rate Carrick, Fletcher they aren't spectacular players, but they are consistant, they make mistakes like anyone else but they aren't mistake prone, a lot of our team are. If you took Ronaldo out of a mistake prone team rather than a consistant if not spectacular team and you could have had major issues.

Clichy, is in no way a bad defender, again I'll point out, Vidic being talked as one of the best defenders around, he made more mistakes and often more costly than Clichy did. Every single defender, bar none, makes mistakes that leads to goals. Sagna cost us more goals that cost us more results than Clichy, simple as that. Normally Sagna makes shockingly dumb mistakes, like clearing from the edge of the box, into the middle of the box where the other team scores, he's done that 4-5 times in the past 3 seasons littered amongst dozens of other mistakes.


ANyway, the thing that is winding me up the most is, Fergie, Dalglish, Mancini seem to be, you know, being managers, chasing players, having talks, signing people and getting on with it.

Arsenal seem to have Wenger off on holiday for weeks, doing smeg all, losing his players, not getting signings sorted while telling everyone he won't be making signings till late July. How many of the players he might be looking at will already have signed for other clubs by then. Is Mata going to feel more wanted by a team that sends a team early June to speak to him, or Wenger, on a sinking ship, who finally wants to talk to him late July, well into preseason training?


If Arsenal went out after the season finished and put pen to paper to bring in Mata, a CB, a DM, would Fabregas consider staying, would Nasri go, would Clichy have signed for City, etc, etc, etc.
 
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