Have things got out of hand?

King Damager said:
As to the original comment though, I'm yeah, unsure as to whether it is racist, but can see how it could be misinterpreted as such, even though im not sure it should have been,but generally thinking it is a bit too extreme.

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Mr Jones may or may not be a racist, however his initial comment was absolutely not racist. It was however completely inappropriate in the situation and would probably have been better received had it been said at a bar or something, not a security guard at an airport checkpoint.
 
james.miller said:
because somebody wearing full gear wasn't searched when he was? you did read the story, didn't you? Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to be taking this a little personally? It's not a race thing so we really shouldn't be trying to make it one.





Reads to me like the muslim security gaurd tried to make it personal, and racist, when it clearly wasn't. Just like you're doing now.
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asim18 said:
"because somebody wearing full gear wasn't searched when he was?"

He was searched because he set off the metal detector. She wasn't searched because she didn't set off the metal detector, it really is as simple as that.

"Maximum security situation" is his opinion James. If someone walks through metal detectors without setting them off they are typically not scrutinized further. (I've been through the same checkpoint many times). This woman walked through without setting off the detector and carried on, simple.
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I included both your posts here as they seem to want to go into the whole metal detector aspect as a reasoning behind his comments.

David Jones made the comment BEFORE passing through the metal detectors so lets not say it was because he was annoyed as he had to be searched and a person covering their face did not.

Did he mean offence by it? no one here will ever know as they have never met the guy to know what his opinions are.
Did the Muslim guard make a mountain out of a molehill? Absolutely.
 
asim18 said:
Mr Jones may or may not be a racist, however his initial comment was absolutely not racist. It was however completely inappropriate in the situation and would probably have been better received had it been said at a bar or something, not a security guard at an airport checkpoint.
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If it wasn't racist then the situation is irrelevant.

I, like everyone else interpreted it as a comment on security. Only someone dementedly PC would construe it as a comment on someone's religion and then by some further straw grasping, an implication of someone's race.
 
The times I have been through security at Heathrow I have never been anything other than amazed at how completely lax they seem. Chatting away to mates about what they did last night, etc etc. There just seems to be no seriousness applied to what they are doing.

This is in direct contrast to the attitude you get in the US - where everyone is friendly but quite obviously very much focused on what they are doing.
 
All we have learnt today is it doesn't pay to tell on people when you think you are right but clearly are just being an attention seeking fool. No one has the right to go about telling security how to do their job or make a "smart joke" about some sort of nonsense injustice they think is happening.

The old man should be pushed into a well for being such a horrible little man trying to be a big boy in an airport.

And the telegraph should be shut down for treating this as news. Just pointless rubbish that we all have to put up with every day as too many people have got it in their heads they know other peoples jobs best.
 
I never set it off but always seem to the random person searched :/ - I must look shifty.

The comment was maybe not the smartest but it was far from racist. Holding someone until they make an apology for something they feel they never done is silly.

Eventually settling on a compromise apology? I mean really?......
What a complete waste of people's time.
 
asim18 said:
Please stop it. That's the third time you're implying some sort of Muslim vs White thing.

If he didn't have anything against her being let through without further checks then he would have kept his mouth shut and this never would have even happened!

Please try to make sense of my posts before just shouting out "Muslim vs white" or whatever.



For the third time, Because she didn't set off the metal detectors, she had every right to be let through just like anyone else who didn't set off the metal detector, regardless of facial visibility since this isn't passport control.
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I don't think he was targetttig her... How do we know that it's the same lady on the passport, how do we know it was even a lady?

Maybe she was checked at passport control, maybe not...

Why can't I pass through control with a motorcycle helmet on?

Not that it would be a very practical idea :)
 
He shouldn't have made the comment, but it was ridiculous they were allowed to detain him for a non-racist comment because one guard is an idiot.
 
Department for Transport rules do not prevent people covering their faces at UK airports for religious reasons.

However, all passengers must show their faces to UK Borders officials when they pass through passport control. Muslim women who wear hijabs can request that their identity is checked by a female immigration officer and they can also ask that they be taken to a private room before they remove their head wear.

A spokesman for Gatwick airport said: “The security team are examining the incident to ensure that the issue was managed in the right way.
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Jay794 said:
Readers/lovers, same thing. Still, I don't see how it's relevent to label all daily mail readers as racist when the article came from the Telegraph, off topic anyways
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Loving the irony, good job! If only it was intentional.
 
Oxy said:
Why can't I pass through control with a motorcycle helmet on?

Not that it would be a very practical idea :)
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A motorcycle helmet is an internationally recognised protective device. A nikab is an internationally recognised religious dress.
 
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Stupid ****ing jobsworths. If they had detained me illegally like that they'd be having words with my lawyer.

Yes you should keep your gob shut at security but in this case he said nothing that could cause offence but rather made a flippant comment.
 
I don't understand how it could be construed as racist in anyway. Unless I've missed something, wearing a burqa means you can't tell some-ones race easily from across a room. The comment sounded simply like somebody having a bit of a light-heated whine about being randomly searched rather than malicious, and there was no need for the guard to escalate it.
 
My father has a metal plate in his neck from when he broke it playing football for Alfreton Town FC many a year ago. It always sets metal detectors off. I better have a word with him as he is always one for making flippant comments like the one in the article. Don't want him screwing the family holiday up because of some idiot jobsworth.

I'm tired of this overtly sensitive political correctness crap.
 
Jay794 said:
I read the article and I agree with him, it's crazy that in this politically correct world a person can walk through an airport with there face covered, whats to say she wasn't carrying a bomb under it?
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A bomb wrapped around her face?

Jokester said:
There does indeed seem to be an issue of illegal detention here.
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Not really - he was free to leave the airport at any time.
 
I wonder what Station Officer Steele's comment on this is.
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To be honest. I see a problem but it was a waste of time.
 
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