Benefits cheats - do you know any?

I know LOADS of benefit cheats. Loads of the lads i work with are living with their partners but they are claiming benefits as if they are not living together.
 
valkynaz said:
Just as monetization of someone else's assets
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so you're saying that it's ok to sell something that isn't yours because they would not use it?

i know people who collect classic cars and have never driven some of them, probably never will either. that does not give the right for me to sell rides in it.
 
ethan said:
You misunderstand. The action of loosing all income (as far as I have understood it) effects all genuine cases not misdiagnosed ones on the ESA contribution). The benefit that they previously received (incapacity) which is now called ESA contribution stops after 12months. If you are married your partner is expected to support you.
I may of course be wrong and so will await correction if need be?
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No Ethan, it then changes to income based ESA rather than contribution based, With contribution based it isnt means tested, where as after the 12 month period of contributions based (if you have paid enough NI into the system to get this version in the first place) it then changes to Income based which is means tested but no NI contributions are needed. The only difference is they have shortened the length of time you can be on contribution based ESA. So if your partner is earning under a certain amount you could possibly still be entitled, contribution based ESA had a length period on before too depending on contributions made if I remember right.
And oddly enough contribution based was worse for some people as they werent entitled to free prescriptions cold weather payments and all the other stuff the means tested version brought with it and that had no right of appeal.
 
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Tachyon said:
Throughout my working life I've probably worked along side folks who are up to some sort of benefits fraud. My very first job myself & the bosses brother were the only two guys officially employed, the rest of the guys went round every other Wednesday & signed on. Boss was happy, they were happy.

Currently work with a guy who is probably on around 30k a year who lives with his g/f, who he rents the house to, while he claims to live somewhere else. Think she gets a few hundred a month towards her rent which in turns pays their mortgage.

Does society find this acceptable, is it getting one over on the system, get as much as you can without getting caught? Personally I've pretty much turned a blind eye to it, taken the view that I wouldn't do it myself but if someone else wants to do it, it's their business and if they get caught then it's their own fault.

What's your thoughts? Turn a blind eye, would you ever report someone?
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Personally, I'd only report somebody who was either violent (A threat to others, a home burglar/mugger (as it invades somebody's privacy & leaves them feeling violated) & child abusers.

The rest I'll leave to the police.
 
I have reported someone I believe is a benefit cheat, nothing seems to have come of it yet, but time will tell.
 
davieg said:
No Ethan, it then changes to income based ESA rather than contribution based, With contribution based it isnt means tested, where as after the 12 month period of contributions based (if you have paid enough NI into the system to get this version in the first place) it then changes to Income based which is means tested but no NI contributions are needed. The only difference is they have shortened the length of time you can be on contribution based ESA. So if your partner is earning under a certain amount you could possibly still be entitled, contribution based ESA had a length period on before too depending on contributions made if I remember right.
And oddly enough contribution based was worse for some people as they werent entitled to free prescriptions cold weather payments and all the other stuff the means tested version brought with it and that had no right of appeal.
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Once again I don't know if this is correct but does this depend on what ESA grouping you are in: the support group or WRAG as a lot of sites say contribution ESA is uneffected by the time limit if you are in the support group which is why so many I suppose would like to be in it. It sounds ridiculous to call it the support group if you don't receive it?
 
Tachyon said:
Throughout my working life I've probably worked along side folks who are up to some sort of benefits fraud. My very first job myself & the bosses brother were the only two guys officially employed, the rest of the guys went round every other Wednesday & signed on. Boss was happy, they were happy.

Currently work with a guy who is probably on around 30k a year who lives with his g/f, who he rents the house to, while he claims to live somewhere else. Think she gets a few hundred a month towards her rent which in turns pays their mortgage.

Does society find this acceptable, is it getting one over on the system, get as much as you can without getting caught? Personally I've pretty much turned a blind eye to it, taken the view that I wouldn't do it myself but if someone else wants to do it, it's their business and if they get caught then it's their own fault.

What's your thoughts? Turn a blind eye, would you ever report someone?
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for that kind of stuff i dont find it acceptable.

i will sometimes pay people cash as its cheaper for me and the gov waste tax money anyway but some people take the ****, like in your above example.

dont you get a cash reward for grassing people in? :)

i also dont have issues with some unemployed people doing the odd job for cash. not every unemployed person is a scrounger, there isnt enough jobs for everyone.
 
I know somebody who has been off work long term with "depression", never seems that depressed when I see him down the pub!!
 
Not just that many people have sever illnesses that are not openly visible or are episodic. I despise the idea that someone with an illness should have to conform to a government stereotype or someone will grass them in as it were.
 
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