Online freedom bye bye.......?

But they come with drm, impositions and limitations to the user, like itunes for example, people don't want this and thus go for the pirating option much like the dvd situation stated in this thread.

iTunes hasn't had DRM on music for years. It really is very difficult to compete with "free".
 
iTunes hasn't had DRM on music for years. It really is very difficult to compete with "free".

Itunes still places limitations on the prodcuts is customers purchase. Why should a consumer have their products controlled when purchased?
 
Itunes still places limitations on the prodcuts is customers purchase. Why should a consumer have their products controlled when purchased?

Such as? You can get very cheap DRM free music from various sources at little cost. Music piracy is still rife. Does that not suggest that your assertion that cutting price will stop piracy is in fact a bit rubbish?
 
I will answer all three stupid posts in one go.

The piracy taking place is making little damage to the music industry, artists are still paid generously, the corporations are making profits.

So please continue to lap up what the corporations/governments tell you and post on issues which doesn't concern you.
 
I will answer all three stupid posts in one go.

The piracy taking place is making little damage to the music industry, artists are still paid generously, the corporations are making profits.

So please continue to lap up what the corporations/governments tell you and post on issues which doesn't concern you.

Only the artists on major labels are still being "paid generously". This statement does not hold up for smaller-scale electronic or indie artists, at all. Even artists that self-release on their own labels and thus control large amounts of the production/distribution are not making a living off it anymore. An artist can make as much in one night DJ'ing as a 4-track EP will make in 12 month period.

Please don't fool yourself. This isn't hurting the major record industry that pushes the lawsuits, but piracy is completely destroying the livelihood of the small scale innocent guys.
 
Please don't fool yourself. This isn't hurting the major record industry that pushes the lawsuits, but piracy is completely destroying the livelihood of the small scale innocent guys.

But they will reap in the profits when exposed and do live performances. And if they don't have a backup/full time job while trying to make it as an artist then they have their priorities wrong.
 
Generally stock clearance if you have had any experience of retail...

So they make it cheaper so people will buy it? Which is exactly what he said doesn't happen. If it sold at exactly the same rate at any price, why would they reduce the price?
 
to get in on this debate, I have to agree to this.

If they can provide something like this for films/tv shows. At present there isn't anything. Not just to rent to buy, DRM free and so you can download it anywhere you log in.

check out 'ultraviolet'. sounds like what you are looking for.

(not the movie, its something new from hollywood to allow you to download movies you own etc and format shift)
 
If there has been, at a guess 500 games released on the PS3, why do i only have 3 of them?

The answer is because most are **** and overpriced and i'm not paying £40 to find out it's rubbish
 
But they will reap in the profits when exposed and do live performances. And if they don't have a backup/full time job while trying to make it as an artist then they have their priorities wrong.

This is the usual spiel spouted by pro-piracy people, and I'm sorry but it's total arse. Of course these people have back-ups jobs, which is normally why they can't actually perform 3-4 times a week to support their musical ambitions. Having to perform in order to earn your bread, furthermore, harms the art itself (if you want to get all high-minded about it); an artist forced to gig in order to support himself will be focussing an inordinate amount of his time on performance, rather than production. The result? The music is worse.

Most electronic artists do actually DJ now to support themselves - it's the only way they can. But this is 100% because the music industry and music consumption has changed so that everyone is getting the music online, for free. The music/product itself is now pretty much worthless. Pirates championing it and saying stuff like "I still go to live shows" is a poor argument. If you enjoy someone's art, pay them for it; the idea that the artist should suffer for his work is a bit outdated... like, Renaissance-outdated.
 
If there has been, at a guess 500 games released on the PS3, why do i only have 3 of them?

The answer is because most are **** and overpriced and i'm not paying £40 to find out it's rubbish

Play the demo to find out if its rubbish, then if it is you lost nothing save a few hours of your time. If its good then purchase it ?

I do this on steam a lot. If I see a game that looks like it might be good, I check to see if there is a Demo, if there isn't then usually I don't bother buying it. My philosophy here is that if the producers know they have a good title they will always demo it for the try before buy experience at which point people will know its a good from the taster they got one and then lay out the cash to buy it.

I know a lot of the smaller indy titles don't do this, but there is more than enough review material available on gaming sites etc so that you can make an informed decision before purchase.
 

If they're a true artist they would do it for passion not money, so it's relevant how many gigs they need instead of producing songs.

Times have changed and so has how people treat music. Artists have two options; deal with it and adapt or quit.
 
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