Norwegian rape victim sentenced to 1 year and 4 months of prison in Dubai for sex outside of marriag

Anyone who defends a law that imprisons a woman for being raped need their head tested for mental illness either that or they have been brainwashed ( usually by religion ).

Awful story and i cant imagine living or ever wanting to go to a backward country like that.
 
Anyone who defends a law that imprisons a woman for being raped need their head tested for mental illness either that or they have been brainwashed ( usually by religion ).

Awful story and i cant imagine living or ever wanting to go to a backward country like that.

But why are white women so stupid to go to countries like this then wonder why they are raped?

Just look at Egypt, a number of journalists are raped by savage mobs, but the white women still goes there and expects the natives to respect her liberation of wearing mini skirt.

I would not go staggering round the streets of Saudi Arabia drunk as i know the consequences of such actions (its called common sense).
 
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There doesn't appear to be much in the way of reputable sources, unless you consider the Daily Mail as one.

Still, it is no secret that the UAE has some pretty strange applications of law.
 
There doesn't appear to be much in the way of reputable sources, unless you consider the Daily Mail as one.

Still, it is no secret that the UAE has some pretty strange applications of law.

Which has been my point but people are too daft to actually read what I have written and instead want to paint it as I am supporting this type of thinking.

You try and find the root of this story and it's just not there nothing. Some priest who by his own admission knew nothing.
 
But why are white women so stupid to go to countries like this then wonder why they are raped?

Just look at Egypt, a number of journalists are raped by savage mobs, but the white women still goes there and expects the natives to respect her liberation of wearing mini skirt.

I would not go staggering round the streets of Saudi Arabia drunk as i know the consequences of such actions (its called common sense).

You're saying that all women who are raped in Egypt are wearing mini skirts? Oh dear.
 
But why are white women so stupid to go to countries like this then wonder why they are raped?

Just look at Egypt, a number of journalists are raped by savage mobs, but the white women still goes there and expects the natives to respect her liberation of wearing mini skirt.

I would not go staggering round the streets of Saudi Arabia drunk as i know the consequences of such actions (its called common sense).

not sure if serious or troll?
 
Dur, this should be simple even for you Gilly.

In the absence of any verification from any reputable sources to what has happened then really nothing has happened.

I'm not the one struggling to put a simple point across so I don't think you should be trying to be condescending.

It's a stupid comment to make to say that nothing has happened. To say you don't know what has happened would be fine.
 
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Though, I've just thought of something. Was the bloke actually found guilty of rape? If not, where is the evidence that she had extra-marital sex?

The "logic" runs like this:

A woman says that she's been raped.

She can't provide 4 men who will stand witness in court that it was rape.

The court therefore rules that it wasn't rape.

The court therefore rules that she had extra-marital sex.


By their standards they are being lenient and merciful by imprisoning her rather than torturing her as commanded in the Qu'ran.
 
I'm not the one struggling to put a simple point across so I don't think you should be trying to be condescending.

It's a stupid comment to make to say that nothing has happened. To say you don't know what has happened would be fine.

I think it's stupid to say something has happened when there is no proof it has happened.

How would you like it if a priest say Gilly had raped someone but he had no proof and actually knew nothing. Would you say fair enough - hey everyone doesn't know what actually happened - or err am I getting framed here for something that never happened.
 
I think it's stupid to say something has happened when there is no proof it has happened.
That would be important if this case were unique and the discussion was limited to the case itself.

However this situation clearly happens a lot, so it's reasonable to treat this as simply a discussion about their law and the culture/religion which keeps women in a lessor role.

Yes you could debate if this actually happened in this case, but it would be a bit pedantic and I don't think anyone cares too much. In your example, rape by priests happened a lot so there was never a need to debate each and every case on its merits.
 
That would be important if this case were unique and the discussion was limited to the case itself.

However this situation clearly happens a lot, so it's reasonable to treat this as simply a discussion about their law and the culture/religion which keeps women in a lessor role.

Yes you could debate if this actually happened in this case, but it would be a bit pedantic and I don't think anyone cares too much. In your example, rape by priests happened a lot so there was never a need to debate each and every case on its merits.

How many Western people have been jailed then in the Middle East after being raped? Common is it - really? Because that is what the thread is about, that is why people on the first page were saying "Send the SAS to kick their ass".

You won't win any prizes for saying that countries in the Middle East have a poor record, by our standards and any decent standards, on women's rights. That thread has been done to death. This though is a whole new ball game.

People most likely don't want to discuss it because they don't want to here the actual facts - there are none whatsoever in this case. Just unsubstantiated rumour. If something more concrete comes out and the story is actually verified then yes I would think it is a significant development in both outlook and judicial practice over there. However, nothing has come out now for quite a few days.
 
I think it's stupid to say something has happened when there is no proof it has happened.

How would you like it if a priest say Gilly had raped someone but he had no proof and actually knew nothing. Would you say fair enough - hey everyone doesn't know what actually happened - or err am I getting framed here for something that never happened.

That'd be different, as there would be a perpetrator. It would also be investigated if it was in a more forward-thinking state.

Here she is being treated disgustingly by the state.

Just so you know, there are many different stories on this matter:

Here's one covering the story, here's one from the biggest media company in Norway, USA Today has a newspiece here quoting the Norwegian department of Foreign Affairs.

The latter also covers this, this and also makes mention of "an Abu Dhabi court sentenced an 18-year-old Emirati woman to a year in prison for illicit sex after she reported that six men had gang-raped her".

"When it comes to seeking justice for sexual violence, women in the UAE still face formidable and often insurmountable barriers," a Human Rights Watch researcher told The Independent.

Human Rights Watch has accused the United Arab Emirates of condoning sexual violence and called changes to its procedures for rape victims.

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.
 

funny thing is indian guy is bigger than him and probably would lay him out if not for all psychological abuse and basically modern day slavery that goes on in Dubai / UAE.

Need that little toss bag to do that here in the UK and get his ass laid out.

How many Western people have been jailed then in the Middle East after being raped? Common is it - really? Because that is what the thread is about, that is why people on the first page were saying "Send the SAS to kick their ass".

You won't win any prizes for saying that countries in the Middle East have a poor record, by our standards and any decent standards, on women's rights. That thread has been done to death. This though is a whole new ball game.

People most likely don't want to discuss it because they don't want to here the actual facts - there are none whatsoever in this case. Just unsubstantiated rumour. If something more concrete comes out and the story is actually verified then yes I would think it is a significant development in both outlook and judicial practice over there. However, nothing has come out now for quite a few days.

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I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.

What I was saying was at the time we started this discussion there was nothing out there but conjecture. Now it appears yesterday evening and nighttime (our time) then more information has come out. That information gives more credence because it has a quote from someone who actually knows something not a priest who by his own admission does not.

As I've already said, by our standards, the treatment of women is poor. That is their way. As for the women who was drunk without licence. Yes it is harsh but she broke local rules. What exactly do you expect.

I am highlighting the double-standards here. If such an article was posted, equally unsubstantiated, in the Daily Mail that was against what peoples prejudices were then they'd be all over it.
 
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What I was saying was at the time we started this discussion there was nothing out there but conjecture. Now it appears yesterday evening and nighttime (our time) then more information has come out. That information gives more credence because it has a quote from someone who actually knows something not a priest who by his own admission does not.

As I've already said, by our standards, the treatment of women is poor. That is their way. As for the women who was drunk without licence. Yes it is harsh but she broke local rules. What exactly do you expect.

The Norwegian papers have all done interviews with the woman herself, too.

As for the rest of your point, you're trying to defend the indefensible. Don't bother.
 
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