Paris attacks.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ated-armed-police-arrest-man-grenade-bag.html

Gatwick North Terminal has been evacuated after a bomb scare, it's been reported.
Witnesses said that armed police arrested a man with a 'gun in a bag' and screamed 'get down, get down' before they restrained him.
Twitter user Mari Reynolds said that a 'lockdown is in progress'.


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So, are we all ready to do what is necessary against IS now and any other group that stands against us? What does it take? Why has is taken our leaders so long to realise that we are at war and actively letting them across our borders?
 
Longbow said:
You saw it on the internet? It must be true then.

You're aware that the AK is used by both sides right?
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I know what you saying that it might be a photoshop etc and not true.

And pretty sure they had ISIS flags around them so not for the other side.

Anyway we will know soon enough if these were refugees or born in France extremists.
 
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I don't know how you fix these attacks, there's seemingly no end to the indoctrination of these people and the no end of people willing to carry out these horrific acts.
 
So many families lives are ruined, for nothing :(

My thoughts are with those at this time. Truly horrendous and cowardly.
 
oldbag said:
I don't know how you fix these attacks, there's seemingly no end to the indoctrination of these people and the no end of people willing to carry out these horrific acts.
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It is quite a bleak :(

EVH said:
So many families lives are ruined, for nothing :(

My thoughts are with those at this time. Truly horrendous and cowardly.
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That's what they want, to break our resolve and spirit.
 
All these attacks took was 8 men with AK47s. They're going to be very common, and France seems especially vulnerable. I'm not sure France will tolerate many more before the attitude towards the Muslim community in the country turns very hostile.
 
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If Islam as a religion is the cause, and for some the only cause, why weren't Muslims terrorising mainland Europe decades ago when security was far more lax? The religion and the Quran haven't changed, so why were Muslims less interested in carrying out attacks on mainland Europe than they are now?

I mean, lets ignore American 'Imperialism', the Russian invasion of Afghanistan and the subsequent arming and training of the proto-Taliban faction in response, the removal of an elected Iranian leader and support of a pro-West puppet in his place, the perceived support of the West towards Israel regardless of their occupation of Palestinian territories, the Cold War and the proxy wars in smaller countries, the support of pro-West but corrupt regimes in the Middle East. Lets forget all of that, because it's simply...religion.

Interesting read here

http://www.cf2r.org/fr/tribune-libre/islamist-terrorism-in-europe-the-case-of-belgium.php
 
Freefaller said:
If you are talking about the forums I'd be glad to but I cannot make the call on in this instance.
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I fail to see how shutting down a forum of discussion aids the fight against ISIS in any fashion.
I don't think it shows any solidarity with the people of France either.
I am utterly disgusted by theses attacks and any so called reasoning behind them, I am not in agreement with many posters on the subject, on either side of the debate either.
One thing is clear ISIS will not stop, it isn't in their MO. They want a holy war, they want the culmination of this war to have the 'armies of Satan' push them back to the holy city, and in then the end fight starts, where some so-called antichrist (leader of the armies of Satan) gets killed by Isa (or returned Jesus).

This is what they believe, and frankly, unless we magically manage to convert them all to some other doctrine, then it isn't going to change.
The only way to defeat them is to disperse them, remove this Islamic state, crush it entirely, if they are dispersed then they will know this isn't the end times, and they will await another. Clearly they won't go away but fractured broken and scattered terrorist cells are easier to deal with than a massive semi-organised organic mass seething in war and destruction, and a recruiting base for the cells which operate around the world. It also acts a herald, a bastion of madness.

We need to sort this on two levels, disperse and crush the Islamic state, and remove those who fund them. This won't be achieved without strategic removals from power of certain entities, and troops on the ground to fight and remove the fighters, and frankly at that stage, their wives, no matter how abhorrent it seems, they are as much the fighters of ISIS as those holding the guns.

We will of course not do any of the above, certainly not in the short term. As we simply do not have the stomach for it, I doubt I do either. Occasional airstrikes may sway things a little, but without a combined military effort we're just painting over the cracks, rather than tackling the foundations of the problem.

As for those who say this is being caused by constant bombing of poor Muslims, utter twaddle and rot. If airstrikes top, they won't. Blair and Bush may have generated the situation for ISIS to thrive, with their retarded 'who cares what happens after' attitude, but now we have that mess to deal with, and we won't stop it by sitting back, and letting ISIS gain full control of Iraq and Syria. We need to do something.

It starts with discussion. It starts with talking and determining a way forward. It doesn't start with closing a forum.
 
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