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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

Was wondering too, anyone have any idea if or what games will be offered with the 10xx series? Couldn't find anything but I'm terrible at googlefu.
 
I am 90% sure I will pick up the 1070, especially since I have VR to think about.

However, I am still sort of tempted by the 1080, as it looks to be way more of a bump compared to the 970 -> 980 jump. One thing that puts me off is the depreciation of these things as I keep jumping up the ladder, especially given the performance gains doesn't exactly match one to one with the performance. (at least it was this way for maxwell correct?)

So can someone lay out for me what the RRP of the maxwell cards started out at, and where they are now in terms of second hand value? What are 980s going for now, and what did they start out at? Basically trying to predict what it would be like to own a 1080, and whether the performance benefits can be justified for me considering the money 'loss' that will occur.
 
chef-borjan said:
I am 90% sure I will pick up the 1070, especially since I have VR to think about.

However, I am still sort of tempted by the 1080, as it looks to be way more of a bump compared to the 970 -> 980 jump. One thing that puts me off is the depreciation of these things as I keep jumping up the ladder, especially given the performance gains doesn't exactly match one to one with the performance. (at least it was this way for maxwell correct?)

So can someone lay out for me what the RRP of the maxwell cards started out at, and where they are now in terms of second hand value? What are 980s going for now, and what did they start out at? Basically trying to predict what it would be like to own a 1080, and whether the performance benefits can be justified for me considering the money 'loss' that will occur.
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I'm fairly certain neither the 970, 980 or 980Ti have had much of a price drop, at most you'd probably find about £50 max depending where you look (some dropped for special day deals such as Black Friday, then went back up).

Overclockers cheapest 980 is £390... original prices for a 980 were $550 (about £380), so in the Uk they were between £400-450, and that excludes the higher clocked ones that require a water block.
 
Minstadave said:
If the 1070 launches around £300 then a second hand 980Ti is going to be around that price.
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Why? Not arguing just interested in your opinion why? :)
If the performance between them alone is similar, why would someone pay the same price as a brand new card for a second hand card that is lacking all the new technology and features? if someone wants to play with VR the 1070 would be the only option of the two so the 980 would not even make it into the decision process

if a new 1070 came in at £300 (likely to be more expensive than that of course), I'd reckon a new 980 Ti would be more like £200-220 and therefore second hand even less, £120-150 absolute max
 
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I like the 1080 more than I thought I would, but I'm not sure I can bear another technology launch ( preordered Fury X and Oculus Rift )

sizable perf increase across the board, double the standard memory capacity
and the multimonitor geometric correction and potential VR optimizations make this a game changer in my view

I like NVIDIAs style, they dont go on about the technical details in an unglamourous way for hours while proclaiming they have superior ethics and R&D than the competition while also complaining about unfairness, NVIDIA just comes out and shows results in a confident and stylish way.

The 'founders edition' thing I find offputting though, its like game preorders
 
stooeh said:
Well it looks about ~22% to me for TitanX -> 1080 but here are the slides:
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They show a monster increase over a 960 but of course these are nvidia slides :p
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I would agree with the ~22%

According to the top graph it looks like gaming perf. of Titan X is sitting at around 3.6 and the 1080 is around 4.4

And I would say the VR graph has the Titan X at ~3.8 and the 1080 at 7. That would represent a ~84% increase.
 
DarrenM343 said:
Why? Not arguing just interested in your opinion why? :)
If the performance between them alone is similar, why would someone pay the same price as a brand new card for a second hand card that is lacking all the new technology and features? if someone wants to play with VR the 1070 would be the only option of the two so the 980 would not even make it into the decision process

if a new 1070 came in at £300 (likely to be more expensive than that of course), I'd reckon a new 980 Ti would be more like £200-220 and therefore second hand even less, £120-150 absolute max
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:D :rolleyes:

Aye, a 2nd hand 980Ti is going to go for £120-£150. You sir, need to start retaking your medication!
 
Ash0787 said:
The 'founders edition' thing I find offputting though, its like game preorders
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How so? With a game preorder you are buying before reviews, so you are basically buying blind. By the time you get the chance to put down money for a founders edition the reviews will be out.

Looks like paying £60-70 extra for launch day stock and possibly a cherry picked core, is a different matter, but sod it, launch day prices often get inflated by retailers anyway as stock starts to run low and for no tangible benefit.
 
Five.Stars said:
Aye, a 2nd hand 980Ti is going to go for £120-£150. You sir, need to start retaking your medication!
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No, that was basing it off of a 1070 being £300 which it wont be (it'll be higher) and working back from that to form the second hand value in relation to that price..

Where's me drugs - argghhhh :D

Time will tell anyway - it's all good :)
 
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I certainly wont be getting a founders edition card. I will be getting the cheapest card that has a decent and quiet cooler.
 
Ash0787 said:
I like the 1080 more than I thought I would, but I'm not sure I can bear another technology launch ( preordered Fury X and Oculus Rift )

sizable perf increase across the board, double the standard memory capacity
and the multimonitor geometric correction and potential VR optimizations make this a game changer in my view

I like NVIDIAs style, they dont go on about the technical details in an unglamourous way for hours while proclaiming they have superior ethics and R&D than the competition while also complaining about unfairness, NVIDIA just comes out and shows results in a confident and stylish way.

The 'founders edition' thing I find offputting though, its like game preorders
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The problem is some of the technology AMD supports too - yet AMD PR is incompetent.

An example is asynchronous warp. When the GTX970 and GTX980 launched Nvidia proclaimed they were the first to support it. Knew quite a few who bought a GTX970 down to that.

Then the OR tech head then mentioned a while later, BTW, the R9 290 series already supported it....

So for a year AMD PR said nothing.

The same goes with MRS for VR,AMD supports it.

Fine grained pre-emption with GCN1.2, which AMD PR said nothing about in a meaningful way.

Nvidia knows how to sell every new feature - AMD PR seems to "miss" half of it and then over concentrates on one or two things.

As a company Nvidia seems better geared to actually selling their products.
 
nvidia delivers a generational leap.

Luddites up in arms over such quick progress.

the 980 series are now paperweights, expect them to fetch a similar price to a paperweight in about two months time.

you still have time to unload your card to some numpty on fleabay, don't try and flog it on the MM.
 
DarrenM343 said:
No, that was basing it off of a 1070 being £300 which it wont be (it'll be higher) and working back from that to form the second hand value in relation to that price..

Where's me drugs - argghhhh :D

Time will tell anyway - it's all good :)
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That isn't exactly how the 2nd hand market works. You can't just see a newer product with similar performance levels and then knock a percentage off that price for sake of being 2nd hand. There are many people who already own 980Ti's and would like another 1 to SLI with, but have been put off by the high price. The increase in availability of new Ti's (at reduced prices due to being EOL) and people selling theres will mean there is still a fairly decent market for used 980Ti's. They wont be going for £150 any time soon! I would say £250-£300 will be the used price over the next 6 or so months.
 
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