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-Ballpark 980/RX 480 performance
-Imaginary RRP of $250 (like the 1070 and 1080, FE RRP seems to be base price)
Yeah, no thanks.
-Imaginary RRP of $250 (like the 1070 and 1080, FE RRP seems to be base price)
Yeah, no thanks.
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If you want to play PC games, a GPU is an essential component. The more you spend the more capable your rig is of delivering the game as the devs intended it, at playable frame rates.
A £400 chair; a £500 mobo (do they really exist?) or a £250 mouse pad (does not exist!) are not the same type of purchase. Those things are for people who just want to burn cash
Whereas a decent GPU is something all PC gamers will need, and they'll want the best one they can afford. Going forwards, games will only become more demanding.
Bascially, if you're a gamer, a GPU is not a luxury item. It's an essential. So crazy expensive GPU prices will basically price people out of this hobby. And when a mid-range 5th tier GPU from nV costs £300, I think that will make some people think twice. I know I have.
If you want to play PC games, a GPU is an essential component. The more you spend the more capable your rig is of delivering the game as the devs intended it, at playable frame rates.
A £400 chair; a £500 mobo (do they really exist?) or a £250 mouse pad (does not exist!)See spoilerare not the same type of purchase. Those things are for people who just want to burn cash
Whereas a decent GPU is something all PC gamers will need, and they'll want the best one they can afford. Going forwards, games will only become more demanding.
Bascially, if you're a gamer, a GPU is not a luxury item. It's an essential. So crazy expensive GPU prices will basically price people out of this hobby. And when a mid-range 5th tier GPU from nV costs £300, I think that will make some people think twice. I know I have.
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All the people out there gaming quit happily on intel and AMD APU's would disagree with you.
You are still comparing apples to oranges and it doesn't work that way. Let me put it in laymen terms.
The RX 480 has a MSRP of $239
The GTX 1060 has a MSRP of $249
If there is a Gigabyte gaming RX 480 and a Gigabyte gaming GTX 1060, there should be no more than a tenner between them. If there is a wider gap, that is down to gouging and that is the bottom line.
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Nah your being delusional. Forget the RRP of $249. We all know the real RRP is $299. So more like $60 difference. Do you honestly think Custom cards will be coming in at $249 apart from the token blower cooler. My opinon like many others is custom cards around or above the FE price as is what happened with the other launches.
Gtx1080 FE $700/£620 and most decent coolers round this price and not the $629 or whatever it was RRP. On my phone so can't be bother searching
Gtx1070 FE $400/£400 and pretty much all decent cooled cards around and above the FE pricing. None were close to $329.
So I am saying I expect more of the same. It's logical to me.
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So where does the magic extra come from when you have two cards that are stated to be $10 difference. Who puts this magic 'extra' on top? Gigabyte? OcUK? The tooth fairy?
I am just using basic math (which I totally suck at for reference) and seeing AMD state a MSRP of $239 and NVidia state a MSRP of $249, where does the extra for the NVidia card come from?
Cheers. I have neglected it a bit lately and need to get back on top but work work and gaming and reviewing is taking up all my time (and the occasional pub visit
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So where does the magic extra come from when you have two cards that are stated to be $10 difference. Who puts this magic 'extra' on top? Gigabyte? OcUK? The tooth fairy?
I am just using basic math (which I totally suck at for reference) and seeing AMD state a MSRP of $239 and NVidia state a MSRP of $249, where does the extra for the NVidia card come from?
Cheers. I have neglected it a bit lately and need to get back on top but work work and gaming and reviewing is taking up all my time (and the occasional pub visit
$299-239 = 60. We are talking decent coolers here. I expect them to be FE pricing and not the $249 due to what's gone before. I can't say it any clearer.
Gibbo said the Sapphire Nitro was due to be £270 here before he got a deal for £250. Even this says to me that a decent cooled 1060 is going to cost.
Any how it's just me guessing as we all are about pricing and it's not been to pretty for us here in the UK.
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Well going from Anandtech, the prices stated are $239 and $249
My head is starting to hurt but there is the proof and anything other than a tenner for the exact same cards is gouging (like I said in my first reply to you which I was replying to someone else anyways).
Gigabyte + MSI + Asus tend to make the same cooler for both AMD and NVidia, so realistically, they should be pretty much on par price wise when everything is equal.
My last response on this matter and if they are indeed £300 as stated by Marine, then something is very wrong and they just won't sell and rightly so.
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Well going from Anandtech, the prices stated are $239 and $249
My head is starting to hurt but there is the proof and anything other than a tenner for the exact same cards is gouging (like I said in my first reply to you which I was replying to someone else anyways).
Gigabyte + MSI + Asus tend to make the same cooler for both AMD and NVidia, so realistically, they should be pretty much on par price wise when everything is equal.
My last response on this matter and if they are indeed £300 as stated by Marine, then something is very wrong and they just won't sell and rightly so.
Lol I give up. I do hope you are right though but I very much doubt it.
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The RRP is only a guide. The manufacturers don't need to follow it. The 1080 launch was indeed better than the 1070 for pricing where just about ever card was above the $400 FE to pound conversion. It's going to be interesting for sure. If it's like the 1070 launch then prices here will be high. You can bet these will sell out fast and the time to buy will be straight away before the stock runs low and prices go up.
If you want to play PC games, a GPU is an essential component. The more you spend the more capable your rig is of delivering the game as the devs intended it, at playable frame rates.
A £400 chair; a £500 mobo (do they really exist?) or a £250 mouse pad (does not exist!) are not the same type of purchase. Those things are for people who just want to burn cash
Whereas a decent GPU is something all PC gamers will need, and they'll want the best one they can afford. Going forwards, games will only become more demanding.
Bascially, if you're a gamer, a GPU is not a luxury item. It's an essential. So crazy expensive GPU prices will basically price people out of this hobby. And when a mid-range 5th tier GPU from nV costs £300, I think that will make some people think twice. I know I have.
Disagree. £500 mobo you say? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...ket-2011-ddr4-eatx-motherboard-mb-68d-as.html
Most people who bought that (and there is an owners club on here) will have a £1000 cpu to go in it and then £300 of memory before we even get to the gfx cards.
Hell Ive just spent £700 of fittings and radiators for my next watercool build.
Problem with the 5th tier GPU being £300 is that 8 years ago when people bang on about affordable gaming cards being £150, with the VAT and exchange rate thats exactly what a £150 costs nowaways.
and again, enthusiasts who buy gfx cards over $350 (which is currently £267+ vat) account for only 1 or 2% of card buyers.
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Considering sending my 1070 back, the rip off high cost is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
The new gpu price point is getting way past ridiculous now-no matter how much it's defended by the same minority of spamming posters attempting to drown out the majority complaining.
£300 for only a gpu or £300 for the whole kit and it simply just works out the box leaving you nothing to do but turn it on and play.
All you 'crazy expensive GPU prices' defenders, enjoy your hobby as those ever increasing gpu prices pushes the consoles strength even further as the lead platform, leaving us with **** ports(in comparison to what theses games could really achieve) and next to no reason to jump on the PC platform as it's getting a way, way too expensive platform with little return now.
They didn't say outperform, they said 'the performance of a 980'. So roughly on-par.
Though I do imagine it will edge ahead as time goes on.
Considering sending my 1070 back, the rip off high cost is leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
The new gpu price point is getting way past ridiculous now-no matter how much it's defended by the same minority of spamming posters attempting to drown out the majority complaining.
£300 for only a gpu or £300 for the whole kit and it simply just works out the box leaving you nothing to do but turn it on and play.
All you 'crazy expensive GPU prices' defenders, enjoy your hobby as those ever increasing gpu prices pushes the consoles strength even further as the lead platform, leaving us with **** ports(in comparison to what theses games could really achieve) and next to no reason to jump on the PC platform as it's getting a way, way too expensive platform with little return now.
No i hate it too. Do I wish we had £300 cards today only costing £150? yeah I do.
Consoles havent moved in price though, thats why it looks so bad in comparison. But next gens out soon and will initially be priced in dollars so you could end up with £100 or more to pay for them.
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If you want to play PC games, a GPU is an essential component. The more you spend the more capable your rig is of delivering the game as the devs intended it, at playable frame rates.
A £400 chair; a £500 mobo (do they really exist?) or a £250 mouse pad (does not exist!) are not the same type of purchase. Those things are for people who just want to burn cash
Whereas a decent GPU is something all PC gamers will need, and they'll want the best one they can afford. Going forwards, games will only become more demanding.
Bascially, if you're a gamer, a GPU is not a luxury item. It's an essential. So crazy expensive GPU prices will basically price people out of this hobby. And when a mid-range 5th tier GPU from nV costs £300, I think that will make some people think twice. I know I have.
Noble chairs - over 400
Motherboard - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-rampage-v-edition-10-intel-x99-socket-2011-ddr4-eatx-motherboard-mb-68d-as.html that's 499.99 right now.
My post was a little tongue in cheek to be fair and you are right, if prices go up too much, less and less people will buy. I hope the trend does not continue and I really hope a 1080 Ti doesn't come up at more than 800. I have said it time and time again that we need more competition, not just AMD as they simply can't keep up and most times just shoot themselves in the foot.