Manchester Bombing *** Please remain respectful and refrain from antagonising posts ***

I used to live in Gatley, a village just up the road from Didsbury. I used to occasionally pop into the Canadian Charcoal Pit for a lamb kebab at lunch time, which is on the same road as the Mosque. The last time I went the Mosque hadn't been open very long. The road has double yellow line parking restrictions along most of its length. This day there were upwards of two hundred cars all parked along the road, on double yellows. I assumed parking restrictions were lifted and I luckily found a space almost outside of the shop. As I was getting out a copper came over and told me I was on double yellows. I commented that I assumed restrictions were lifted as so many cars were similarly parked. To my disbelief he said they were worshippers at the new Mosque and his bosses had told him to ignore anyone going there and not ticket them. But he was going to ticket me if I didn't immediately move... He was pragmatic and said it was the "new way". I moved home soon after as the rot was obviously set in and one could see that the PC nonsense actually transgressed laws and favoured those who would use the race card to bend the laws of our land. The planning permission for the Mosque had gone ahead despite unbelievable numbers of objections, many based on the lack of parking... So the seeds of discontent get sown.
 
Someone in Swansea just informed me they have a 'bomb threat' there. They were just going to the bank and everyone was being evacuated apparently. Don't know how substantial the 'threat' is or isn't.

Swansea? Probably just some left lovers moaning about the mines being shut
 
It was all business really - I did some work for SCRDE at one point. Got on quite well with them though as turned out a couple were from my home town.

EDIT: Supposedly there is also sorts deployed today - even some personnel from RMP close protection, etc. not just units who have a special forces or EOD background, etc.

I can tell you that's simply not true. Some army divisions and police (extended) are the only "forces" currently out even in the GSZ. The critical threat is not because of an impending attack, but because not enough was known about Abedi to know if he received external support. That is the only reason.
 
I used to live in Gatley, a village just up the road from Didsbury. I used to occasionally pop into the Canadian Charcoal Pit for a lamb kebab at lunch time, which is on the same road as the Mosque. The last time I went the Mosque hadn't been open very long. The road has double yellow line parking restrictions along most of its length. This day there were upwards of two hundred cars all parked along the road, on double yellows. I assumed parking restrictions were lifted and I luckily found a space almost outside of the shop. As I was getting out a copper came over and told me I was on double yellows. I commented that I assumed restrictions were lifted as so many cars were similarly parked. To my disbelief he said they were worshippers at the new Mosque and his bosses had told him to ignore anyone going there and not ticket them. But he was going to ticket me if I didn't immediately move... He was pragmatic and said it was the "new way". I moved home soon after as the rot was obviously set in and one could see that the PC nonsense actually transgressed laws and favoured those who would use the race card to bend the laws of our land. The planning permission for the Mosque had gone ahead despite unbelievable numbers of objections, many based on the lack of parking... So the seeds of discontent get sown.

That is pretty sickening but I've seen it working the other way as well - went to a wedding at one of my relatives Church many years ago and due to the parking situation people were having to park on double yellow and the police or council or someone had ok'd it for worshippers at that Church when they had big gatherings.
 
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Didsbury mosque, where the loser worshipped, is a converted Methodist chapel. What a shame such a beautiful building is now associated with such hatred and violence.

He worked there 4 years ago for god know how long, might have only been a week. On that same basis if he previously worked in the local mcdonalds is that now going to be forever associated with hatred and violence? You really are scrapping the bottom of the barrel today.
 
I used to live in Gatley, a village just up the road from Didsbury. I used to occasionally pop into the Canadian Charcoal Pit for a lamb kebab at lunch time, which is on the same road as the Mosque. The last time I went the Mosque hadn't been open very long. The road has double yellow line parking restrictions along most of its length. This day there were upwards of two hundred cars all parked along the road, on double yellows. I assumed parking restrictions were lifted and I luckily found a space almost outside of the shop. As I was getting out a copper came over and told me I was on double yellows. I commented that I assumed restrictions were lifted as so many cars were similarly parked. To my disbelief he said they were worshippers at the new Mosque and his bosses had told him to ignore anyone going there and not ticket them. But he was going to ticket me if I didn't immediately move... He was pragmatic and said it was the "new way". I moved home soon after as the rot was obviously set in and one could see that the PC nonsense actually transgressed laws and favoured those who would use the race card to bend the laws of our land. The planning permission for the Mosque had gone ahead despite unbelievable numbers of objections, many based on the lack of parking... So the seeds of discontent get sown.

Lol yeh sure you did Chris, sure you did.

Anything to further your blatant racism/bigotry.
 
I'll bite again. How can you say that someone with little opportunity isnt more likely to find their lives less worth living?

Bite as often as you wish - I think you're unlikely to change your views in response to anything I say, to be honest. But by answering them I can present a counterpoint to other people. However, beyond pointing out that I never said what you say I said above, I don't feel there's any clarification of my words required. My point was fairly clearly argued, I feel. Re-wording the same thing over and over again would only water it down and allow the forest to be hidden by the trees.

I'm simply coming at the suicide angle here, the less reasons someone can justify for killing themselves, the less probability that they should also kill others in the process... The different aspect of Wahhabist extremism is something that isnt going to get solved any time soon, with our lovely support of the Al-Sauds, we can definitely make our society less needing to kill themselves however.

You've done substantially more than "simply come at the suicide angle" which is why I replied. You have taken a very minor item - that someone who has no opportunities might be more likely to end their life - which you have not supported. (Fun fact: suicide rates are higher in richer neighbourhoods than poorer according to Time magazine). You have then applied this minor item in the context of a discussion where it doesn't seem to apply. (This bomber was accepted at university and also employed at the time of the bombing). Then finally and most importantly, have blown it up to equal footing with massively more significant factors such as his parents being Libyan dissidents and his returning and living in Libya which is, since we bombed it to Hell, a factory for terrorists.

The first of those things you did wrong can be attributed to an assumption easily made because it 'seems obvious'. The other two I can only attribute to a pre-existing angle you wish to push.
 
I have to come in here and literally be like WTF you all think you know about. This isn't COD. Your "loadouts" are way off, your understanding of "what infantry, what UKSF and other regs" is way off. Just get on with updating your Excel spreadsheets and leave the Prestiging until you get back to your consoles.

I'm kind of bored of spreadsheets today man
 
I can tell you that's simply not true. Some army divisions and police (extended) are the only "forces" currently out even in the GSZ. The critical threat is not because of an impending attack, but because not enough was known about Abedi to know if he received external support. That is the only reason.


To make TM look well 'ard also.
 
He did what he did in the name of religion, there needs to be some kind of a debate among the Muslim and wider community as to why these people feel that the Qoran gives the green light for murdering innocent people and treating non Muslim women with contempt. It's not just these extremist terrorists who kill, look at all of the grooming gangs that have targetted white girls.

How do you know there isn't?

I'm guessing you don't spend much time in the Muslim community so how do you know?

I meant people that may listen to them may be shut down as racist. Sorry I wasn't clear. I'm not a fan of any of those people, but if people aren't having honest discussions and playing hide the ball then that's where people will turn. Where are the rational voices in the middle?

The rational voices in the middle are generally considered "lefties" by those complaining they are being shut down.

It also doesn't help that many of those that are complaining about being shut down cannot hold a debate and spend their time making ridiculous claims like ISIS have taken a Filipino city. Context is key here and so many of them seem to follow at the first hurdle.
 
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