Intel to launch 6 core Coffee Lake-S CPUs & Z370 chipset 5 October 2017

[jigger]

Am I the only one here to like status quo? If AMD doesn't release Ryzen, then the 2600K would have been still kicking ass, saving me lots of money upgrading.

Yeah and we could all run Sandybridge forever!

My bank balance would be a lot better off, but Mac's would look very tempting right now.

 

[humbug]

Sorry but it doesn't seem like you do. You massively overhype the Ryzen, despite not owning one.

Like I say, I like my Ryzen, but core for core I know it's behind Haswell overall due to clocks. Which is what I've always said. I'm happy to concede I've got faster IPC than Haswell, but my clocks are certainly lower.

If you're desperate to ditch Intel and jump into an AMD set up, I'd wait for Zen 2 at the least. Potentially AMD can gain a cool 20% per core quite easily.

I'm not over-hyping Ryzen, my GPU is too powerful for my existing CPU, it jumps to 100% on and off causing micro-stutter, you see the same in review after review where even CPU's like the 7600K do that, so of course my 4690K does it, Ryzen 1600 sorts that right out, watch the reviews, i even posted my own video illustrating this and was lambasted for it.

Don't tell me about your Haswell experiences, you have an R9 290X, i'm sorry but compared to my 2.1Ghz GTX 1070 its an elastic band.

 

[Doobedoo]

Yeah and we could all run Sandybridge forever!

My bank balance would be a lot better off, but Mac's would look very tempting right now.

Pfft who are these peasants still running these ancient sandy whatsits. I have haswell, bow down to my superior cpu greatness

 

[Techen]

I'm not over-hyping Ryzen, my GPU is too powerful for my existing CPU, it jumps to 100% on and off causing micro-stutter, you see the same in revew after review that even CPU's like the 7600K do that, so of course my 4690K does it, Ryzen 1600 sorts that right out, watch the reviews, i even posted my own video illustrating this and was lambasted for it.

Don't tell me about your Haswell experiences, you have an R9 290X, i'm sorry but compared to my 2.1Ghz GTX 1070 its an elastic band.

I have to take Martinis side, you are overhyping ryzen. Just leave ¬,..,¬

 

[Jono8]

I'm not over-hyping Ryzen, my GPU is too powerful for my existing CPU, it jumps to 100% on and off causing micro-stutter, you see the same in revew after review that even CPU's like the 7600K do that, so of course my 4690K does it, Ryzen 1600 sorts that right out, watch the reviews, i even posted my own video illustrating this and was lambasted for it.

Don't tell me about your Haswell experiences, you have an R9 290X, i'm sorry but compared to my 2.1Ghz GTX 1070 its an elastic band.

Should have got the i7.

A few years ago I couldn't believe the difference between my 2500k and 3700k in some games. The i7 was hugely faster at the same clocks in some cpu bound situations.

i5's have been a bit rubbish in parts of some games for years now.

 

[jigger]

Only two so far but it's a start.

Maybe, but I don't have enough details and probably not until everything gets patched and I'm sure of good stability.

 

[gavinh87]

I'm not over-hyping Ryzen, my GPU is too powerful for my existing CPU, it jumps to 100% on and off causing micro-stutter, you see the same in review after review where even CPU's like the 7600K do that, so of course my 4690K does it, Ryzen 1600 sorts that right out, watch the reviews, i even posted my own video illustrating this and was lambasted for it.

Don't tell me about your Haswell experiences, you have an R9 290X, i'm sorry but compared to my 2.1Ghz GTX 1070 its an elastic band.

I had a haswell at 3.7 with a 1070, no difference to what I have now.

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/13418487/fs/10822345#

 

[humbug]

Should have got the i7.

A few years ago I couldn't believe the difference between my 2500k and 3700k in some games. The i7 was hugely faster at the same clocks in some cpu bound situations.

i5's have been a bit rubbish in parts of some games for years now.

Yes no doubt the Haswell i7 will also sort that out but its a dead-end platform and i don't trust 'that problem cure' to last anything like long enough.

 

[gavinh87]

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/10822345/fs/11923003

As fair as a comparison I have. Haswell is besting my 1700 as similar clocks
A 4.5ghz haswell would certainly beat my 1700. So long as you aren't asking to the i5 to do too much like streaming/recording.

 

[jigger]

Pfft who are these peasants still running these ancient sandy whatsits. I have haswell, bow down to my superior cpu greatness

I still have a Sandybridge i5 that I can't bring myself to part with. Such a good chip that will probably end up in the loft with a load of other milestone chips.

 

[voidshatter]

I still have a Sandybridge i5 that I can't bring myself to part with. Such a good chip that will probably end up in the loft with a load of other milestone chips.

The Ring Bus architecture is indeed a milestone. Sandy bridge is remarkable in CPU history.

 

[IT Troll]

All the recent talk of mid-2018 for Icelake and Z390 is making Coffee Lake a hard sell. 10nm with 8C/16T sounds worthy of a new chipset/motherboard. If Coffee Lake had been backwards compatible then it would make much more sense as an interim upgrade.

 

[Perfect_Chaos]

All the recent talk of mid-2018 for Icelake and Z390 is making Coffee Lake a hard sell. 10nm with 8C/16T sounds worthy of a new chipset/motherboard. If Coffee Lake had been backwards compatible then it would make much more sense as an interim upgrade.

That's what i think too, and with Ice Lake supposedly bringing some gains as well as more cores.. seems a good thing to wait for.

 

[Doobedoo]

All the recent talk of mid-2018 for Icelake and Z390 is making Coffee Lake a hard sell. 10nm with 8C/16T sounds worthy of a new chipset/motherboard. If Coffee Lake had been backwards compatible then it would make much more sense as an interim upgrade.

Bang on the money. I have no doubt the 8700k will be a good cpu with strong single thread and good multi core as well, but with Ice lake looming on the horizon with another new chipset, it just makes much more sense to wait it out.

 

[DragonQ]

Yep!
I can't wait till the 8700k is out to put this to bed. 8700k will murder ryzen in games.

Do we even need to see benchmarks? It should perform slightly better than an i7-5820K at the same clocks and it should clock a bit higher if you delid it and can manage the heat.

 

[jigger]

Do we even need to see benchmarks? It should perform slightly better than an i7-5820K at the same clocks and it should clock a bit higher if you delid it and can manage the heat.

Pretty much. An overclocked 5820K with dual channel memory.

 

[AndreiD]

It's just a 7700K with 2 more cores, not sure why people are comparing with older architectures. The leaked single core boost is already higher than Kaby Lake so it's possible the 8700K might reach higher clocks since it's on a more refined 14nm process.

Cannonlake is just Coffee Lake shrunk on 10nm and it's 1 year away, it's probably not going to be a massive jump (or is it? depends on how confident you are in Intel's 10nm). The bigger jump should happen with Ice Lake which is the architecture update, but that's coming in 2019.

 

[gavinh87]

Pretty much. An overclocked 5820K with dual channel memory.

It will perform much better than a 5820k. You do talk some ****.

 

[AndreiD]

Any predictions for what kind of clocks the 8700K will reach?
I'm thinking 5~5.2Ghz since it's 14nm++.

 

[gavinh87]

Already seen screens of 5ghz without a delid, so I'd say that's possible on good silicon.