Fiesta MK8

I would personally go and look at a nearly new Mini.

We bought a 1 year old Mini Cooper Clubman D with 12,000 from our local main dealer. Had the Chilli Pack (So things like Cruise, LED Lights, Auto Lights & Wipers, Dual Zone Climate, etc), Media XL Pack (Large touch screen sat nav), Heated Seats, Rear Parking Sensors, Comfort Access (Keyless Entry), etc etc. It was £17k.
 
Just noticed that Ford are doing a scrappage scheme on pre-2011 cars (registered before 1st Jan 2011) and will offer £2,000 off the price of a new Fiesta, although I'd be doubtful that it could be combined with any carwow discounts. This works for me as I have a 2008 Fez (if I decided to buy rather than lease).
 
Rossi~ said:
It's something that has bugged me for a while, the lack of small cars that are quiet and comfortable. We don't need and nor can we afford a big barge, but still want something comfortable and quiet. Not really that fussed about having all the toys, space and super-dooper tech safety gubbins. Even the Audi A1 has pretty bad cabin noise compared to the A3.
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I can assure that the new fiesta is not much louder than my A4, which is also very good at only one decibel higher than a Bentley at 70mph. I often find that with fords I seem to be able to get a comfortable seating position, whereas I have to fiddle around with Audi's and BMW's are far too low.
Having driven both the new Seat Ibiza FR and now our car the fiesta is well ahead with driving dynamics and refinement but the Seat is better at interior and boot space. But the plastics inside the Ibiza are simply awful and they also cost nearly £20k without as many options as the Fiesta. As I stated before people lambasted the focus for being £18k but they still pay the price...
 
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The headline price is somewhat irrelevant if you're looking at 2 year PCPs. You need to figure out the cost to you to possess the car for the period you want.

If it's still going to cost you 7000 + your car over 2 years because they're also adjusting the GFV, then it's still too expensive.
 
Kenai said:
The headline price is somewhat irrelevant if you're looking at 2 year PCPs. You need to figure out the cost to you to possess the car for the period you want.

If it's still going to cost you 7000 + your car over 2 years because they're also adjusting the GFV, then it's still too expensive.
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Ah yes. No worries will keep looking then mate. Thanks a lot.
 
My instructor got one of these yesterday, and I drove it today for the first time, so here are initial thoughts vs a MK 7.5 that was equally specced:


  • Steering is much more responsive
  • Accelerator is more responsive
  • Clutch bites much sooner (the combination of these two things makes it really really easy to drive)
  • Handbrake is quite loose unless you really pull it all the way up - I pulled away at lights when I was just trying to get to bite
  • It's really really quiet
  • Reverse gear location is so much better - now have to pull the latch on the gear stick up
  • It's "intelligent" - car will drive with you, so things like it adds a bit of gas when you get to bite to help pull away
  • Breaks are nicer - you can be softer with them more easily, but they're equally strong
  • Better, tighter turning circle
Overall, it's a really really nice car to drive. In the hour and a half driving it, it has convinced me that first "proper" car will be an ST version of it. I absolutely love it
 
MrRockliffe said:
It's "intelligent" - car will drive with you, so things like it adds a bit of gas when you get to bite to help pull away
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Almost every car with fuel injection does this - can't remember anything in the last 15 years that I've driven that doesn't: you can creep at low speed in traffic with nothing more than the clutch
 
Armageus said:
Almost every car with fuel injection does this - can't remember anything in the last 15 years that I've driven that doesn't: you can creep at low speed in traffic with nothing more than the clutch
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You can on a flat road but this felt different - the Fiesta Mk 7.5 I'd been driving would stall on an incline without gas, but this will still pull away with just the clutch. It compensates for my poor driving ability at times :p

I dunno, just feels different, and you can see it on the rev counter. In second gear, you can slow down to 7 MPH and it won't shudder - I guess this could be more due to gear ratios but I felt the car was more interactive with driving; smarter, whether this is by design, or reactive
 
Armageus said:
Almost every car with fuel injection does this - can't remember anything in the last 15 years that I've driven that doesn't: you can creep at low speed in traffic with nothing more than the clutch
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My grandads mk6 fiesta definitely doesn't :p

Nasher said:
Even then lol. They were selling new mk7 ST-3s for under 20k and this one has 25% less engine :/
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:confused: The W204 C63 had 37% more engine. Does that mean W205 should be 37% cheaper?

The new mk8 ST comes with more kit as standard, and is available with LSD for £23420. With 6 years of inflation from 2013 the mk7 ST-3 equates to 22985. £500 for considerably more kit with launch control, LSD, infotainment etc is hardly a bad deal
 
Joe T said:
The fundamental problem with small cars is that buyers desire all the kit/comfort/NVH/safety etc that larger cars have. The basics of the car itself are not much different to build cost wise, but once you add in all the other stuff the costs become even closer.
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That's kind of my feeling as well. By the time you're considering buying a small car costing anywhere near £20k you might as well start looking at small family cars like the focus or golf instead.
 
squerble said:
Just noticed that Ford are doing a scrappage scheme on pre-2011 cars (registered before 1st Jan 2011) and will offer £2,000 off the price of a new Fiesta, although I'd be doubtful that it could be combined with any carwow discounts. This works for me as I have a 2008 Fez (if I decided to buy rather than lease).
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On top of anything else you can get, its manufacturer backed (well historially when they have run before)
 
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