Poll: Poll: Will you be buying a 2080Ti/2080/2070?

[FoxEye]

No thanks. I have zero interest paying msrp for an EOL product. And have no issue paying a small premium for an "enhanced 1080Ti" as the bragging rights alone is worth it.

I guarantee you almost no-one cares what GPU you have. Even here.

We mostly only care we about the GPU we have, or comparing with GPUs we might want to buy ourselves.

The GPU you have is of no interest to me whatsoever, unless I'm interested in buying one also - in which case your experience with your card (if shared) is useful.

Personally I don't read people's specs in their sigs. I never have done, and I can't see why I ever would. I'm sure I'm not alone, or even in the minority, in ignoring such things.

 

[FoxEye]

I doubt we’ll see cheaper 10xx cards anytime soon, at least not until AMD release something that forces the price down.

There are only two ways to keep prices high...

First is that demand is still very strong, despite these cards being two years old.

But why should this be? All previous generations have seen prices cuts as the cards age; this reflects the natural tendency of demand to fall during the product's life-cycle. Why should the 10xx series be any different? Even cutting AMD out of the picture, demand should surely decrease after two years. This is true even if you sell a product that nobody else makes (and isn't consumable).

The only other option is that nV don't care if they sell the 10xx cards or not. But that would be strange. And if this were true, then the only reason they would choose to fight a price war with AMD would be to deny AMD a sale, not to make a sale themselves. Possible, I guess, if Jensen has enough leather jackets to last him well into retirement...

 

[easyrider]

A new 2080 costs £750 not £1000.

Pedantics

I assumed that you would know I was referring to the ti version of the 2080 series.

I’ll make sure I spell it for you in the future.

I’ll quite happily nit pick all day long and win...but the 2080 series doesn’t excite me enough to quash your bias rhetoric

 

[andybird123]

Pedantics

I assumed that you would know I was referring to the ti version of the 2080 series.

I’ll make sure I spell it for you in the future.

I’ll quite happily nit pick all day long and win...but the 2080 series doesn’t excite me enough to quash your bias rhetoric

How? You used 2080 at least twice and then talked about the 1080ti which everyone else has been comparing to the non-ti. Within the context of where your post sits and the fact you used 2080 without the ti on multiple occaisions, its not at all surprising that he assumed you meant what you actually typed as opposed to some version in your head you decided not to share with the group.

 

[Gregster]

I don’t think that the 2080 will keep its value...no one will buy a used one for 1000 when 7nm hits...

Also if you bought a 1080 ti for £650 and sell it for £450 the residual loss is less...

I bought and sold many many cards over the years...and depending on th3 tech it’s sometimes more savvy to hold on to what you have...if you have a 1080ti it’s still got value even until 7nm hits.

The 2080 I doubt

A used 2080 for £1000 (I assume you mean pounds?) If you would pay £1000 for a used 2080, I don't feel that your experience over the many years has done you proud

Pedantics

I assumed that you would know I was referring to the ti version of the 2080 series.

I’ll make sure I spell it for you in the future.

I’ll quite happily nit pick all day long and win...but the 2080 series doesn’t excite me enough to quash your bias rhetoric

Ohhh, you meant the 2080Ti, how silly that we didn't know that

 

[easyrider]

A used 2080 for £1000 (I assume you mean pounds?) If you would pay £1000 for a used 2080, I don't feel that your experience over the many years has done you proud



Ohhh, you meant the 2080Ti, how silly that we didn't know that

There are undiscovered tribes in the heart of the Peruvian Jungle that knew I was referring to the 2080 series of cards with the focus of my response about the ti.

Typical point scoring over pointless minutia

 

[Gregster]

There are undiscovered tribes in the heart of the Peruvian Jungle that knew I was referring to the 2080 series of cards with the focus of my response about the ti.

Typical point scoring over pointless minutia

You tried point scoring over someone who is clearly excited to be getting a 2080 but failed. Put a winky and outy tongue but you failed lol. Sure the guy is a bit OTT but I thought you were better than that but clearly I thought wrong.

 

[easyrider]

You tried point scoring over someone who is clearly excited to be getting a 2080 but failed. Put a winky and outy tongue but you failed lol. Sure the guy is a bit OTT but I thought you were better than that but clearly I thought wrong.

Hardly.

But if it makes you happy, i'll let you believe I thought a 2080 was a grand...Not fussed...

I don't need validation of my experience of PC hardware from anyone mate.

And I certainly dont need to buy it to get likes on the Internets

 

[McGraw]

I guarantee you almost no-one cares what GPU you have. Even here.

We mostly only care we about the GPU we have, or comparing with GPUs we might want to buy ourselves.

The GPU you have is of no interest to me whatsoever, unless I'm interested in buying one also - in which case your experience with your card (if shared) is useful.

Personally I don't read people's specs in their sigs. I never have done, and I can't see why I ever would. I'm sure I'm not alone, or even in the minority, in ignoring such things.

Pedantics

I assumed that you would know I was referring to the ti version of the 2080 series.

I’ll make sure I spell it for you in the future.

I’ll quite happily nit pick all day long and win...but the 2080 series doesn’t excite me enough to quash your bias rhetoric

Do you mean pedantic, pedants, pedantry or semantics as it seems you have no grounds to offer spelling lessons to anyone?

 

[jjgreenwood]

I don’t think that the 2080 will keep its value...no one will buy a used one for 1000 when 7nm hits...

Also if you bought a 1080 ti for £650 and sell it for £450 the residual loss is less...

I bought and sold many many cards over the years...and depending on th3 tech it’s sometimes more savvy to hold on to what you have...if you have a 1080ti it’s still got value even until 7nm hits.

The 2080 I doubt

A 2080ti will likely still be usable in 4k, and if software use of the tensor cores kicks off then potentially could still be much faster than legacy product. Too many variables at play here to call it. I doubt anyone spending £1100 on a graphics card really cares much though.

 

[jigger]

I doubt anyone spending £1100 on a graphics card really cares much though.

Huh?

 

[jjgreenwood]

Huh?

If you prepared to spend that on a graphics card you probably are not too worried about resale. If resale is rubbish that means something much better has been launched so you'll be buying that and getting loads more performance anyway.

 

[Smffy]

That's a fallacy. The 2080 FE "overclock" is only 90MHz more than the 1710MHz boostclock so a good custom overclock should be able to take it to 2000+MHz. So no that graph isn't best case scenario.

Either way the 2080 wins.

"Only" 90 Mhz? That's like 5% and no doubt comes in handy when trying to edge out the 1080ti.

The 1080ti also hits 2ghz, so that suddenly neutralises that 90Mhz.

It’s all irrelevant as like Pascal these seem to boost naturally much much higher than quoted. In the engineering demos after the main keynote the founders 2080Ti was running at about 2,150 (or 2130 I forget), vs same demo on Pascal 2,000.

Likely there is a lower gain on AIB with better cooling on founders but hoping we can see some clocking 2,300, plus the GDDR6 speed should be a tidy package.

 

[easyrider]

A 2080ti will likely still be usable in 4k, and if software use of the tensor cores kicks off then potentially could still be much faster than legacy product. Too many variables at play here to call it. I doubt anyone spending £1100 on a graphics card really cares much though.

Pre-ordering without benchmarks proves that.

 

[ubersonic]

I don't think a 30 percent performance increase is worth 1200 quid seen as though 1080ti was 35 percent faster than a 1080 for £700

Did the 1080ti bring with it the most important/gamechanging feature in well over a decade?

Jensen has got greedy thinking them silly miners will buy anything at whatever price.

Miners never bought the 1080ti (none of the serious ones did anyway) or the Titans, why would they be interested in a £1k 2080ti unless it has more than double the mining performance of king Vega (which is highly unlikely).

 

[Las Vega]

Here's my predictions:

The 2080Ti will be the new king of 4k.

The 2080 will be the king of 3440x1440 Ultrawide while still beating the 1080Ti at 4k.

The 1080ti will become the defacto card for 2560x1440p.

Everything under this will no longer be considered "enthusiast level" but more budget oriented.

 

[JediFragger]

Everything under this will no longer be considered "enthusiast level" but more budget oriented.

Nah, the 1080 will still be strong for quite a while I think (at 1440p esp). 1080Ti's will be for those with a little more budget and who have 144hz 1440p or 100/120hz UW screens.

 

[fastboy]

I wouldn't call raytracing the most important or game changing feature in over a decade.

I get some people are excited for it but I think that's a bit otp.

 

[DarrenM343]

I wouldn't call raytracing the most important or game changing feature in over a decade.

I get some people are excited for it but I think that's a bit otp.

I would. And I remember some discussion on here ages ago between those who seemed to know a lot about graphics, folks stating how raytracing will be the next big step - the future. That day is now nearly here.
IMO part of the problem here is that it's NV bringing this to us, many don#t like that IMO.

 

[ubersonic]

I wouldn't call raytracing the most important or game changing feature in over a decade.

Name something bigger that's happened since HW T&L.

The only thing that even compares is AA and AF improvements via more GPU power, but they're still not in the same ballpark.