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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

Looking forward to the reviews, hope we get a breakdown of how the RAM frequency affects the performance of the CPU. I was getting some G.Skill 3200 Cl14, but think I will wait and see now.
 
The Old School Gamer said:
Both are good kits.

I'm firmly in the camp that a PC isn't meant to lit up like a Christmas tree (but everyone to their own, as Jay would say... I digress lol). ;)
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I'm not going for a full RGB build, however I do like the idea of being able to use a few items for some ambient lighting to suit a theme. I have no need for RGB fans doing crazy rainbow patterns!
 
Jokester said:
The bit on the motherboard is literally just copper connect linking the CPU to the sockets, the BIOS is just the option to tell the CPU to run the PCI-E controller in gen 4 mode.
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Yup, if the traces are of adequate quality there's no controller on the mortherboard, it simply has the traces from the CPU to the PCI-E slots.
 
I would be surprised if it was Gen4.0 to all sockets though. Perhaps just the top 16x socket and maybe one M.2 socket? X570 boards are expensive due to the extra work required for signal integrity.
 
andy_mk3 said:
I would be surprised if it was Gen4.0 to all sockets though. Perhaps just the top 16x socket and maybe one M.2 socket? X570 boards are expensive due to the extra work required for signal integrity.
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Top pciex 3.0 slot will be 4.0 so using half the lanes it normally would the rest 3.0 on the other slots, I don't know what this means tbh I can't wrap my head around why this is good, it just SOUNDS good to my ears
 
Illuminist said:
Top pciex 3.0 slot will be 4.0 so using half the lanes it normally would the rest 3.0 on the other slots, I don't know what this means tbh I can't wrap my head around why this is good, it just SOUNDS good to my ears
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Nah, either you'll get 16 gen 4 lanes if you have a gen 4 GPU in there, if you have a gen 3 GPU it'll default back down to gen 3 and use all 16 lanes again.
 
Was looking to buy a B450 ITX board, but the Gigabyte one has low ratings. Any chance MSI / Asus will enable PCI-E 4.0 too?
 
What was that new 3dmark test that used pci-ex4 they were running at computex, navi uses pcix 4 ? how and why was that even necessary to show against a pciex 3 card in that benchmark, this is super confusing
 
Illuminist said:
What was that new 3dmark test that used pci-ex4 they were running at computex, navi uses pcix 4 ? how and why was that even necessary to show against a pciex 3 card in that benchmark, this is super confusing
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It was to show that 4.0 is better than 3.0, nothing else. Bigger numbers, innit?
 
d_brennen said:
It was to show that 4.0 is better than 3.0, nothing else. Bigger numbers, innit?
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But how can they possibly show that it's better in any way, how can bigger numbers come out fam? if the card stuck in a pci-ex 4.0 slot cant use more bandwidth that a 16x 3.0 slot? im confused cuz
 
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