AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - * NO COMPETITOR HINTING *

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:19

Danesh_italiano said:
Annnd no decent matx mobo again :/
Why none creates a taichi or hero vrm but on a matx format?

I dont like ITX and i would like to have a 3950x on a affordable small case :'(

A Riotoro CR280? It costs under £50.

beany_bot · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:20

Nerusy said:
Should be £500 absolute max or is ocuk known for overinflating launch prices? 3600 CL16 RAM going up by £20 yesterday is of course a bad precedent but hopefully it will launch at max £500 here...should even be around £490

Well we already know we can get it for ~£470 delivered if you buy from across the pond (Thats including the VAT). So any more than that will be "not best value".

Mensy · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:20

DragonQ said:
German rainforest has pre-orders up. Prices are...high. GBP equivalents:

R5 3600: £236
R5 3600X: £287
R7 3700X: £367
R7 3800X: £414
R9 3900X £489

Hhhmm they seem a tad high to me. Was hoping the 3700X would have been closer to £300 not £400

easyrider · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:21

beany_bot said:
Why would they charge £40 more than the rainforest? no one would buy it here.
Also, it can't possibly be more than the $ price. That makes literally no sense.

AMD is launching five new processor SKUs this July, including the 12-core/24-thread Ryzen 9 3900X, the 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7 3800X and 3700X, and the 6-core/12-thread Ryzen 5 3600X and 3600. Prices over previous-generation products remain flat wherever applicable. The 3700X is being launched at the same $329.99 MSRP as the 2700X, the 3600X at a slightly higher $249.99 compared to the $239.99 the 2600X launched at; and the 3600 aims to be the sub-$200 king at the same $199.99 price as the 2600. The 3800X is being launched as a premium 8-core option at $399.99, and the 3900X can be yours for $499.99. We expect most online retailers to mark these prices up by 5-10 percent as they normally do.

https://www.techpowerup.com/256967/psa-no-ryzen-3000-pre-orders-today-1st-july-spare-your-f5-key

HeX · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:26

Mensy said:
Hhhmm they seem a tad high to me. Was hoping the 3700X would have been closer to £300 not £400

Other places have the 3700X listed at ~£319-329

Nerusy · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:30

beany_bot said:
Well we already know we can get it for ~£470 delivered if you buy from across the pond (Thats including the VAT). So any more than that will be "not best value".

You sure? $500 in GBP *1.2 + 8 (handling fee) comes to about £485

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:30

DragonQ said:
German rainforest has pre-orders up. Prices are...high. GBP equivalents:

R5 3600: £236
R5 3600X: £287
R7 3700X: £367
R7 3800X: £414
R9 3900X £489

Prices from a UK retailer were already posted here a few days ago and they were all cheaper than those prices.

beany_bot said:

So like the previous 2 generations the CPUs are clocked to their limits??

razorpakk · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:34

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
So like the previous 2 generations the CPUs are clocked to their limits??

Was there ever a reason to expect Ryzen to have decent overclock potential?

Not to you in particular, but given how low it clocked even under LN2 (those recent records), it was almost a given it wouldn't budge past the stock frequency.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:34

razorpakk said:
Was there ever a reason to expect Ryzen to have decent overclock potential?

I didn't but a few people were expecting 5GHZ on here IIRC.

razorpakk · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:38

I'm glad there's no pre-orders as I would've already bought the 3900X. Now we can still see if it's actually better than even a 9700k in gaming before buying.

awaybreaktoday · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:38

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Prices from a UK retailer were already posted here a few days ago and they were all cheaper than those prices.

So like the previous 2 generations the CPUs are clocked to their limits??

That cPU looks damaged

Nghtmare · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:38

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I didn't but a few people were expecting 5GHZ on here IIRC.

If they are so bad at overclocking like he says, then why is AMD hyping PBO so much...

awaybreaktoday · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:40

Nghtmare said:
If they are so bad at overclocking like he says, then why is AMD hyping PBO so much...

Fake hope....

razorpakk · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:41

Nghtmare said:
If they are so bad at overclocking like he says, then why is AMD hyping PBO so much...

Remember AMD Fury X? AKA "Overclockers' Dream"

We all want AMD to succeed, as they are the underdog, but let's not forget AMD likes to deceive just as much as Intel or Nvidia.

Danesh_italiano · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:43

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
A Riotoro CR280? It costs under £50.

Exactly, it is easy to find itx case with good price, but it is hard to find compact ATX case (cerberus x style) for a good price.

LePhuronn said:
"Affordable small case" and SFF builds do not go hand-in-hand. Cheap cases for small builds are usually woeful for airflow and cooling capacity, especially if you're looking at putting the 16 core beast in there. ANd what's wrong with ITX? Does everything MATX does in a much smaller package.

Participant said:
Genuinely, what's the point of matx when mitx is smaller?

Well, with matx mobo you can have a dicent onboard audio + extra 2 pci slot and + extra 2 ram slot.

Other day i bought a asrock Fatal1ty Z370 itx and the audio was terrible compared to my x370 taichi that has the same audio chip. The quality difference was probably due to only quantity of capacitors, as on ITX you dont have space for nothing there.

The funny thing is that you can find decent x299/x399 matx mobo, but it is too expensive for who only play a game that is +10 years old and single thread lul

Zoroaster · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:45

German rainforest links all dead now. I guess AMD lawyers have been on the phone.

chroniclard · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:45

Manual overclocking is almost dead when PBO/Boost/Whatever eeks out most of what you will get anyway without pushing crazy volts. Choice is basically do you go for highest all core clock or highest boost.

Nghtmare · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:45

razorpakk said:
Remember AMD Fury X? AKA "Overclockers' Dream"

We all want AMD to succeed, as they are the underdog, but let's not forget AMD likes to deceive just as much as Intel or Nvidia.

I don't think anyone here expects them not to since we are the ones who benefit from competition. I just don't think it will go down very well for them to hype PBO so much if the CPUs don't have any OC potential, because its their reputation on the line. Considering its all eyes on Zen 2 at the moment, it can hurt their sales.

Sh4rkie · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:51

Not sure it's been posted but the X570 ROG Crosshair VIII Formula has appeared on the rainforest for preorder @ £666.39

Zeed · 2 Jul 2019 at 10:51

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Prices from a UK retailer were already posted here a few days ago and they were all cheaper than those prices.

So like the previous 2 generations the CPUs are clocked to their limits??

What did You expected ?? I said if I culd hit Max boost on All core IT's better outcome than I expected.

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