AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[dogma77]

German rainforest has pre-orders up. Prices are...high. GBP equivalents:

R5 3600: £236
R5 3600X: £287
R7 3700X: £367
R7 3800X: £414
R9 3900X £489

for that prices i stay with Intel
overpriced junk from AMD

 

[Illuminist]

Ha, Quadro's in some of them but if you want the real cards they are Matrox for the display output capabilities.

Thanks for that, always wondered, don't listen to 8 pack he's just jelly coz you make rigs for people with bigger muscles than him
(just joking mr 8 pack)

 

[razorpakk]

Meanwhile other sites in Europe have opened pre-orders, I wonder if it's like review embargos: if someone does it in the UK, then all the other sites will be able (or have) to.

 

[alec]

Genuinely, what's the point of matx when mitx is smaller?

Less sacrifice. In mATX the most you lose are pcie slots, and you are still left with 3-4.
In ITX you can't get 4 ram slots, can't have a second PCIE slot, so need to rely on internal soundcard.
Meanwhile my GENE VIII will kick most ATX Z170 in features and capabilities.

What you gain is a smaller case. But to get a case that supports at least a 240mm rad with ITX, you end up with something in dimensions of mATX case anyway.

 

[Zeed]

for that prices i stay with Intel
overpriced junk from AMD

Can I have Your stuff ??
Those Who know Know

 

[Journey]

Well your contacts are wrong.

Gaming is by far the least comercial market for 8Pack units. Although its still healthy numbers I target comercial customers who need more speed for 95%+ of my sales.

Not going to get into an argument with you about availability.

I am sure plenty of companies buy your systems, no need to try and defend your brand, but you'll see most of the kit I design in 19" racks, or custom enclosures/chassis. My work involves long term availability, embedded technologies, a high level of quality assurance alongside super tight revision control, and sometimes COTS builds using the components you love to love. I am sure that 90% of the hardware vendors I work with you'd have never heard of, but then the computing industry is huge and reselling desktop parts is barely scratching the surface, I am sure we both can say that.

 

[LePhuronn]

for that prices i stay with Intel
overpriced junk from AMD

That made me chuckle until I realised you were serious, and now I just pity you.

 

[Zeed]

489£ for the 3900X is pretty much a dream to be honest.

Nice thats still in my Budget for toy I got no need for

 

[LePhuronn]

4K video isn’t bottlenecked by sata

I take it you've never worked in media production then. Uncompressed 16bit RED 4K raw footage at 60fps is about 8.5 Gbit/s. 12bit is 6.4 Gbit/s. SATA won't handle that.

 

[LePhuronn]

I dont like ITX and i would like to have a 3950x on a affordable small case :'(

"Affordable small case" and SFF builds do not go hand-in-hand. Cheap cases for small builds are usually woeful for airflow and cooling capacity, especially if you're looking at putting the 16 core beast in there. ANd what's wrong with ITX? Does everything MATX does in a much smaller package.

 

[8 Pack]

Matx is a great form factor I agree. Gene always rocks...

 

[robfosters]

I can still see the 3900X breaking the £500 barrier in the UK.

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

for that prices i stay with Intel
overpriced junk from AMD

If it is junk then it shouldn't matter what price it is; you wouldn't buy it anyway.

Good to see that the trolls are out in force again today.

 

[maltrabob]

for that prices i stay with Intel
overpriced junk from AMD

Troll detected... Better than Intel with more performance as for the same or similar price AMD is offering more cores/threads. You've just made yourself look like a proper idiot dude.

 

[LePhuronn]

If amd release a gpu that is almost as powerful as the top end a year late, people cry.

Radeon 7 was a PR stunt that offered nothing new and was priced at a point made possible only by Nvidia's greed.
Navi 10 also offers nothing immediately new and no real differentiator, yet is charged at Nvidia's inflated price points.

Ergo the perception is AMD are just playing in the skewed market that Nvidia created and fleecing their customer base.

If amd release a cpu that is almost as powerful as the top end a year late, people are overjoyed.

Zen 2 is forward thinking and in every metric that actually matters is better than Intel across the stack. AMD are technology and process leaders at this point in time, yet they are not abusing that position to fleece their customers; Ryzen 3000 is a smidgen more expensive than the previous generations, but not unjustifiably so, and they are also not locking their customers into motherboard upgrades either, or indeed even forcing you to purchase the latest board for the latest chip.

Ergo the perception is AMD are offering choice, competition and taking the fight to Intel, and as a side effect bring a little sanity to CPU prices.


So that's the difference.

 

[Gee]

for that prices i stay with Intel
overpriced junk from AMD

cy@@@@

 

[Zoroaster]

German rainforest has pre-orders up. Prices are...high. GBP equivalents:

R5 3600: £236
R5 3600X: £287
R7 3700X: £367
R7 3800X: £414
R9 3900X £489

3900x seems fine, but normal people are not interested in that chip. At those prices I will happily walk away and keep playing on my 4770k.

 

[easyrider]

I can still see the 3900X breaking the £500 barrier in the UK.

£529 @ocuk I reckon

 

[beany_bot]

£529 @ocuk I reckon

Why would they charge £40 more than the rainforest? no one would buy it here.
Also, it can't possibly be more than the $ price. That makes literally no sense.

 

[Nerusy]

£529 @ocuk I reckon

Should be £500 absolute max or is ocuk known for overinflating launch prices? 3600 CL16 RAM going up by £20 yesterday is of course a bad precedent but hopefully it will launch at max £500 here...should even be around £490