Dan A4-SFX V4 Mini-ITX Case

wookiee87 · 31 Oct 2019 at 09:24

Hi all does anyone know the eta of the above, looking to build a mini itx 3900x gaming/editing monster mini pc, if iits going to be a while i can buy it elseware direct from taiwan

cheers

wookiee87

whoops meant to say the v4.1 with the new pci-e gen 4 riser cable

khemist · 31 Oct 2019 at 14:58

Looks like December, see here - https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/33083317 i'm considering getting one also.

wookiee87 · 1 Nov 2019 at 21:36

cant wait that long have just pre ordered mine, shipping around the 8th nov from tawain should be around 1-3 weeks from that date to arrive

khemist · 1 Nov 2019 at 21:43

I might buy one when in stock but i have no real need to go small like this, i've just always wanted to try it.

What cooling will you be using?.

wookiee87 · 1 Nov 2019 at 21:45

got my eye on the asetek 645lt 92mm aio cooler for my 3900x and a replacment 2080ti blower from zotac as my palit card wont fit its 2.75 slot

extra 1k i'd rather not spend but hey i've got it so what the hell XD

selling off my palit card to a freind for £500 quick and easy i know its a huge loss but i'm a nice guy

wookiee87 · 2 Nov 2019 at 22:13

ordered the new asus strix x570-I itx mobo, new asetek 92mm aio, a sf 750 w sfx corsair psu and a few other small things, TIM and a fan grill all ariving tomorrow should be able to test and make sure everythings good, just waiting on the case thats a few weeks away

martin363 · 2 Nov 2019 at 23:34

The Asetek 645LT AIO is not great, I have just given up on the Dan with a 9700k at stock because of it. The one shipped from OC comes with a 1800 RPM Noctua fan (or at least mine did). You may want to buy an L9i and use the Noctua fan from it, which is a 2500 RPM fan, it helps things a bit.

It is significantly outperformed by the Noctua L12, or the big Shuriken 2, which are both small and air coolers, but neither will fit in the Dan. With hindsight is a poorly designed case, and extra 10mm in width would have opened up a decent range of CPU cooling options.

Sorry to be negative but messed about with this for 4 months, had a post in cases here, it is a bugger to fit too, you have to remove the pin fitment on both sides of the case to fit the radiator....

An extra 92mm fan in the base helps too, by about 5c on GPU, My AIO has the fan from the L9i on it, and then the fan is shipped with is in the base, being lower RPM.

Just moved the whole setup to a ghost which is night and day. That said, a 65w CPU should be ok.

wookiee87 · 2 Nov 2019 at 23:46

oh thats not encouraging news

i've looked online at ppl's builds in the dan case with a 3900x and yes the cpu does run warm, but the 92mm aio does help a lot, one build i saw was a 3900x with a l9i and at stock speed the cpu was around 101 degrees under synthetic load, i dont plan to hit the components with such demanding loads, just gaming mainly and the odd bit of render work, plus ambient temps in the uk should help with keeping things cool, my room is always cold as i have the windows open as much as i can.

plus to top thinsg off i'm looking at a blower 2080 ti which will help no end to keep the interior of the case cool, card thermals may suffer a bit but i'd take lower clocks over cooking my hardware any day

wookiee87 · 2 Nov 2019 at 23:56

martin363 said:
The Asetek 645LT AIO is not great, I have just given up on the Dan with a 9700k at stock because of it. The one shipped from OC comes with a 1800 RPM Noctua fan (or at least mine did). You may want to buy an L9i and use the Noctua fan from it, which is a 2500 RPM fan, it helps things a bit.

It is significantly outperformed by the Noctua L12, or the big Shuriken 2, which are both small and air coolers, but neither will fit in the Dan. With hindsight is a poorly designed case, and extra 10mm in width would have opened up a decent range of CPU cooling options.

Sorry to be negative but messed about with this for 4 months, had a post in cases here, it is a bugger to fit too, you have to remove the pin fitment on both sides of the case to fit the radiator....

An extra 92mm fan in the base helps too, by about 5c on GPU, My AIO has the fan from the L9i on it, and then the fan is shipped with is in the base, being lower RPM.

Just moved the whole setup to a ghost which is night and day. That said, a 65w CPU should be ok.

not to worry, i've got a lian li pc o11d xl case with all the bells and whistles attached, but for what i do mainly gaming such a system to me dosnt make much sence plus the dam thing weights a tonne so taking it out and about is a no go, thats what lured me to the dan case, i've had a few itx bulds in the past but the dan case will be the smallest of the lot. the 3900x is a 105w tdp chip but it can be undervolted to reduce heat, i have it at 4.45ghz atm at 1.3v i know i'm going to need to reduce but anything over 4ghz all core i'd be happy with, yet again need to do lots of bios tweaking

sweet build btw XD, have you thought about delidding your cpu to get better temps?

martin363 · 3 Nov 2019 at 01:05

I moved it into a ghost yesterday and now use the Dan plus AIO for a 65w Xeon, I use for work. which is absolutely fine with the AIO. The air cooling is much more effective unfortunately, perhaps due to the 120mm fan and unobstructed airflow.

wookiee87 · 5 Nov 2019 at 08:10

Hey all been busy tearing down my current build and fitting the 3900x and ss'd to a test bed system which includes all the components which will be uesed in the new dan case build, have to say i'm really impresed with the 92mm aio, i've undervolted the 3900x it to 1.2v but its boosting to around 4.4ghz on most cores (8 of 12) and temps are around 50-52 degrees under load (destiny 2) and idle is around 35-37 degrees. i know temps will rise once installed into the case but for now the cpu is doing very well, mobo on the other hand is running warm the chipset especally 50 degrees idle and hitting almost 80 under load

may look at extra fans once installed into the case, need to tame that or else i'll have problems.

just waiting on the dispatch of the dan case from taiwan that sould be on the 8th so 1-2 weeks from that date and it'll be here, also will be ordering another 2080ti soon 2 slot, got my current 2.75 width card has sold to a freind so as soon as thats done and dusted the new card will be ordered

martin363 · 5 Nov 2019 at 10:24

Good news, have you tried heat soaking the Cooler? I found if I ran Real bench for 30 mins, the CPU temp would be fine initially but then climb to 95+ over time as the water heated, I didn't let it go beyond this, though that was in the case. Undervolting the Ryzen may be the key. I was using an intel 9700k so can't comment specifically on that.

wookiee87 · 5 Nov 2019 at 20:42

i'll run a few cinebench r20 and 3d mark runs and see what the 3900x can get to heat wise, bear with me and i'll report back temps shortly

EDIT

right just hit the cpu with a couple of r20 runs, cpu clocking up to 4.5ghz on most cores and the max temp recorded was 72.3 degrees with a cpu package power of 128w.

ran 3d mark timespy cpu test on loop for a while also, cpu clocking the same 4.5ghz on almost all cores and max temp was 63 degrees with the cpu package power at 100w ish peak.

well see how the finished build turns out but, if i can muster 4.3ghz oc on the cpu that would be the sweet spot, if i have to change out the included noctua fans to increase airflow i'll do that, i use a headset so any excess noise wont be notacable

between all the runs the cpu downclocked to 3.5ghz and the temps plumited back to the mid - low 30's

martin363 · 6 Nov 2019 at 03:47

Good News! Interesting to compare the performance in the case to the 9700k... for me, conversations like this have real value and learning because I love SFX and seeing what we can achieve. Please keep updating.

wookiee87 · 6 Nov 2019 at 07:54

i uptaed the bios just after my stress tests to 1403 for the asus strix x570 I gaming, noticed a good jump in benchmarks r20 especally was 6600 ish points before but some memory tweaking and the bios update boosted to just over 6800 points (stock cpu speed PBO enabled), noticing my psu gets quite warm but i'm hopful using the aio below as intake should provide enought airflow into the case to keep it cool, will also use another 92mm fan below the mobo area in the dan case as intake.

good news for the dan case its being processed and should be shipped by the 8th nov, getting excited now soon it will be done XD

martin363 · 7 Nov 2019 at 03:00

Mine also came from Taiwan, but I live a bit closer.

khemist · 7 Nov 2019 at 18:10

I think i may be going for the Mjolnir over this if i can manage to grab one later this month when it's released.

wookiee87 · 7 Nov 2019 at 21:20

not long to go now for the case 1 day until dispatch, i've had a change of plans and went ahead and ordered a 2070 super for now, with the new ampere gpus on the horizon i didnt think it wise to drop £900 on a 2080ti, if the new gpu's arnt up to par or cost more then maybee a 2080ti will be on the cards.

i'm hopeful that the next gen will be as quick if quicker than whats avalible now

martin363 · 7 Nov 2019 at 23:00

khemist said:
I think i may be going for the Mjolnir over this if i can manage to grab one later this month when it's released.

Looks fab, but cautious about GPU thermals with at solid panel.. Be interesting to mod with some holes.

khemist · 8 Nov 2019 at 04:07

You can get vented panels.