Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Wasn't at my desk, so missed out on a bit of news, it'll be a bit tedious to link all sources.

From 16:35 - 17:35 (now):

*EU TO BAN RUSSIA STATE-OWNED MEDIA COMPANIES SPUTNIK, RT
CLOSURE OF ENTIRE EU AIRSPACE FOR ALL RUSSIAN AIRCRAFT
EU'S BORRELL SAYS EU FOREIGN MINISTERS WILL ENDORSE SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA, INCLUDING EXCLUSION OF RUSSIAN BANKS FROM SWIFT AND MEASURES AGAINST CENTRAL BANK
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TO PUSH CONGRESS FOR $6.4 BILLION OF MILITARY, ECONOMIC AID TO UKRAINE - SCHUMER
*UKRAINE REPORTS DAMAGE TO TWO NUCLEAR FACILITIES: IAEA
EU TO FINANCE AND DELIVER WEAPONS TO UKRAINE
*HUNGARY WON'T SUPPLY ARMS TO UKRAINE, PREMIER ORBAN SAYS
*HUNGARY OPPOSES SUSPENDING RUSSIA-BACKED NUCLEAR PROJECT: ORBAN
UKRAINE HAS REPORTED DAMAGE TO TWO NUCLEAR FACILITIES - IAEA
WORLD BANK PRES. MALPASS: WILL PARTICIPATE IN CALL WITH G7 FINANCE MINISTERS, CENTRAL BANK GOVERNORS ON TUESDAY TO DISCUSS UKRAINE SITUATION- CBS INTERVIEW
US SENATE MAJORITY LEADER SCHUMER: ADMINISTRATION WILL LOBBY CONGRESS FOR $6.4 BILLION IN MILITARY AND ECONOMIC HELP TO UKRAINE
UKRAINE FOREIGN MINISTER SAYS DEFENSIVE WEAPONS, MILITARY EQUIPMENT, AND FINANCIAL SUPPORT FOR UKRAINE ARE UNDERWAY || WE ALSO DISCUSSED NEW PAINFUL SANCTIONS TO STOP PUTIN’S WAR
EU CRISIS MANAGEMENT COMMISSIONER LENARCIC SAYS WE EXPECT MORE THAN 7 MILLION UKRAINIANS TO BE DISPLACED
UK'S BUSINESS MINISTER KWARTENG: RUSSIA'S INVASION OF UKRAINE MUST BE 'WAKE UP CALL' FOR UK BUSINESSES WITH COMMERCIAL INTERESTS IN RUSSIA

Sources:
https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1497973706831929348
https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1497973334847414278
https://twitter.com/FGoria/status/1497975001387081731
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1497977305154695170
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1497976919882670087
https://twitter.com/AllawiSsemanda/status/1497981515543859200
https://twitter.com/DeItaone/status/1497979865798217729
https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1497977305154695170
https://twitter.com/arabnews/status/1497983891315044356
 
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Mr Jack said:
It's down to the written orders of the Prime Minister, isn't it? Some previous PMs have said they wrote orders saying no strike, IIRC, but what do we think BoJo would do? I'm guessing nuke-all-the-things. Possibly first having scrawled Chhhuuuurrrrcchiiillllllll!!!! down the side of the nuke in crayon.
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It is. Personally I think Boris’s last orders for the subs would be put yourself under the control of the US. It would make sense as our nukes are leased from the US anyway
 
Rroff said:
If they have autonomy to strike in a last resort situation not sure what is in the letter will matter much.
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Maybe. But I'd think if you're picking the crew of a submarine with the UK's nuclear deterrent aboard you'd be carefully picking people who will follow orders to the absolute letter.
 
Tombstone said:
WW2 probably would have been over in a few weeks if twitter had been around. This war must be doing wonders for Twitters PR and stock
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Sigh. Are you being serious, or trolling? Genuinely can't tell.

In a world war, the internet would be largely destroyed very quickly. Transatlantic fibre cables would severed. Satellites serving internet would be destroyed. Datacentres, CDN’s, any internet hosting infrastructure would also be easily destroyed.

How would twitter function without the internet?...................
 
ubersonic said:
I doubt US intel would have been needed when their position was broadcast on Twitter.

I mean all it would take is for one Ukrainian soldier to see the vid and be like "I recognise that area, grab some NLAWs boys we're having ourselves a barbeque".

The power of social media :p
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Tue but im sure they would have been tracked to where they was going to.
 
What happened to open conversation.
For example putin raised his nuclear defence because he received threats from nato.
Nato responded, not by saying no we didn't, but with. What he is doing is unacceptable.
I want to hear them say no we didn't, and also want to see what threats he Recieved.
Like I said conversation and transparency would help a lot here.
 
Dave2150 said:
Sigh. Are you being serious, or trolling? Genuinely can't tell.

In a world war, the internet would be largely destroyed very quickly. Transatlantic fibre cables would severed. Satellites serving internet would be destroyed. Datacentres, CDN’s, any internet hosting infrastructure would also be easily destroyed.

How would twitter function without the internet?...................
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Well I was actually being serious because presumably if twitter had been around and was reporting in the way it is here then the initial German advances into neighbouring countries wouldnt have been anywhere near as effective and thus the whole thing wouldnt have even reached world war proportions, their troop movements could be have reported via social media and stopped before they even reached the point where they attacked Poland. However the caveat to that is that in order for the internet to have existed for Twitter to exist the world and international relations and tech would have had to have been much further developed than in the 1930s and the whole WW2 breakout would have been unlikely from a political standpoint anyway.
 
muon said:
That ain't what you said.



Stop adding stuff to your statement now. It is irrelevant if nukes hit before a counterattack can be launched. It is irrelevant, how much of the UK remains. Other NATO nations (European or non-European) are irrelevant.

The UK will definitely hit back. That is what the nuclear deterrent is.
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Indeed.
Out of interest, are any of our tridents at sea currently?
I think 2 of 3 were getting repaired last i heard.
 
Semple said:
I'm amazed that Ukraine wasn't given an iron dome system, same was what Israel has running 24/7. That has a pretty high rate of intercepting rockets/shelling.
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Israel vetoed it, they were scared that if Ukraine quickly fell it would fall into the wrong hands, I’m sure in hindsight knowing the situation now they would have allowed it to be given to Ukraine
 
Tombstone said:
Well I was actually being serious because presumably if twitter had been around and was reporting in the way it is here then the initial German advances into neighbouring countries wouldnt have been anywhere near as effective and thus the whole thing wouldnt have even reached world war proportions, their troop movements could be have reported via social media and stopped before they even reached the point where they attacked Poland. However the caveat to that is that in order for the internet to have existed for Twitter to exist the world and international relations and tech would have had to have been much further developed than in the 1930s and the whole WW2 breakout would have been unlikely from a political standpoint anyway.
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? You're missing my whole point - in a world war, the internet wouldn't work. Turn off your home router, or turn off mobile data on your phone. Try load a website - it won't load. This is what will happen to you if you're in a country that's being invaded in a world war.

Internet infrastructure is easily destroyed.
 
Semple said:
I'm amazed that Ukraine wasn't given an iron dome system, same was what Israel has running 24/7. That has a pretty high rate of intercepting rockets/shelling.
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Two issues with that in that it is a fairly large static installation in a fluid situation which takes experienced operators to run and the Israelis probably have justifiable concerns as to how much information about it gets into the wrong hands.
 
woppy101 said:
Israel vetoed it, they were scared that if Ukraine quickly fell it would fall into the wrong hands, I’m sure in hindsight knowing the situation now they would have allowed it to be given to Ukraine
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Whilst it may have been a public reason but the real reason is that Russia could have retaliated by supplying anti air to Iran/Syria.
 
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