Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

Dem2k · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:06

bingham67 said:
Discussion was they are Indian students no idea though.

I really dont see Putin walking out of this he got fair bit of control in Ukraine now yes not the main parts but blood been spilt happy to be wrong though.

Im starting to think he going to claim t~~hat southern part of~~ all of Ukraine.

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Jono8 · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:07

Did Putin just simply miscalculate massively here?

I get the impression that A. He wasn't expecting Ukraine to put up such a fight , and B. He wasn't expecting almost the whole of the rest of the world to unite against him sanctions wise.

Minstadave · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:08

Jono8 said:
Did Putin just simply miscalculate massively here?

I get the impression that A. He wasn't expecting Ukraine to put up such a fight , and B. He wasn't expecting almost the whole of the rest of the world to unite against him sanctions wise.

Yes. Which is very scary.

potatolord · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:09

a1ex2001 said:
The Russian Facebook and Twitter bots are state run……

Gosh, it's almost as if there is some sort of co-ordinated communication strategy in place within Russia aimed at controlling information about an active war.

Either that, or the West has been successful in containing Russian information assets.

Or, it could be both.

Uther · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:09

Jono8 said:
Did Putin just simply miscalculate massively here?

I get the impression that A. He wasn't expecting Ukraine to put up such a fight , and B. He wasn't expecting almost the whole of the rest of the world to unite against him sanctions wise.

Yes I think so, on both counts. He probably thought it would be all over before the west had even agreed on a strategy.

bingham67 · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:11

Brazil leader gone for neutral stance what Russia got for them.

dowie · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:12

Jono8 said:
Did Putin just simply miscalculate massively here?

I get the impression that A. He wasn't expecting Ukraine to put up such a fight , and B. He wasn't expecting almost the whole of the rest of the world to unite against him sanctions wise.

I think so... he might still be able to grab and hold a chunk of Ukraine from the East and South but regime change ideas seem a bit shaky any puppet regime put into place by Putin if he carries on pushing to take Kyiv (at great cost) is likely to be inherently unstable and face a rival regimen in Western Ukraine and a continued fight. And the sanctions of course are going to be a bit of a wake-up call to the Russian people as of tomorrow.

Scougar · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:12

Wife's old missionary team is delivering food/aid throughout kiev.

AiiR · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:12

Jono8 said:
Did Putin just simply miscalculate massively here?

I get the impression that A. He wasn't expecting Ukraine to put up such a fight , and B. He wasn't expecting almost the whole of the rest of the world to unite against him sanctions wise.

I've heard the Russian army is incredibly corrupt, to the point where generals can't admit to the amount without giving themselves up. So Putin may well have believed he could just stroll in based on Crimea, Georgia and what he is being told by his higher ups. But going up against a formidable opponent on their home turf has shown the massive holes in the Russian army.

It's going to be hell in Russia when/if their stock market opens.

The_One · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:14

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robfosters · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:15

bingham67 said:
Brazil leader gone for neutral stance what Russia got for them.

He’s always been a complete plank

Thorper · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:17

robfosters said:
He’s always been a complete plank

He's got no Bols-onaro

Shamikebab · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:18

Well I don't have a basement and every room is connected to the outer wall so I'm ******

Semple · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:18

Nerusy said:
They can't freeze it all. It is spread out and a good chunk of it is in physical gold. They froze a large chunk of it. There's probably an analysis out if you google it but the point is they will still have money to prop up the rouble.

In essence surely physical gold is worthless. It only has a worth if someone is willing to pay for it. With all the sanctions and general negativity towards Russia, I can't see how they'd even raise some money from selling the gold.

+ Giving it to the Russian people in lieu of the ruble is hardly going to go down well.

Jono8 said:
Did Putin just simply miscalculate massively here?

I get the impression that A. He wasn't expecting Ukraine to put up such a fight , and B. He wasn't expecting almost the whole of the rest of the world to unite against him sanctions wise.

Absolutely. It would have been hard to predict and plan on both points though. I think he was expecting the Ukrainian military to follow the same act as the Afghanistan military and refuse to put up a fight.

I think he was also expecting to have more allies, and for western nations to be soft in their sanctioning as they have done so in the past.

sprite1275 · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:18

Jono8 said:
Did Putin just simply miscalculate massively here?

I get the impression that A. He wasn't expecting Ukraine to put up such a fight , and B. He wasn't expecting almost the whole of the rest of the world to unite against him sanctions wise.

I reckon one of the things that's really ****** him off is the amount of weapons the west has give Ukraine. Without them I wonder if his plans would be going a lot smoother.

Freddie1980 · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:19

As some of you might know my other half is Ukrainian and obviously the events that have been going on have been troubling to say the least. Today the mother in law called saying the Russian military was outside her house and she was scared what was going happen. My partner asked me what could we do to help, I said "There's at least two tanks outside you mothers house. That should be enough."

potatolord · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:20

Uther said:
Yes I think so, on both counts. He probably thought it would be all over before the west had even agreed on a strategy.

I don't think Russia would expect an invasion of Ukraine to be completed within 4 days. I just don't think that is realistic, given the size of Ukraine.

Whether they expected such sanctions to be agreed so quickly, possibly not.

I'm seriously concerned that Putin is no longer the rational, cold-blooded killer he has been for the last twenty years. I think he's seriously ill, mentally or physically, and is now a loose cannon. I am very worried about what will happen if Putin continues in power.

Jono8 · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:21

bingham67 said:
Brazil leader gone for neutral stance what Russia got for them.

No surprises there. He's a ****.

Malevolence · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:23

Worrying if true. But I fail to see how it can be. I mean, why the **** would you advertise it?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498069451270459395

Jono8 · 27 Feb 2022 at 23:23

potatolord said:
I don't think Russia would expect an invasion of Ukraine to be completed within 4 days. I just don't think that is realistic, given the size of Ukraine.

Whether they expected such sanctions to be agreed so quickly, possibly not.

I'm seriously concerned that Putin is no longer the rational, cold-blooded killer he has been for the last twenty years. I think he's seriously ill, mentally or physically, and is now a loose cannon. I am very worried about what will happen if Putin continues in power.

I saw a post earlier on reddit stating that they had not removed a victory page from one of their media/government pages for yesterday the 26th February, and there was a web archive link still showing it...

So i suspect they were very much thinking they would have this wrapped up quickly ( i suspect they thought Ukraine would just capitulate/surrender)