Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Tbh, one firing of a nuke against another country we might as well go all in and put the human race into extinction. Maybe humans don't deserve any better. Only planet we know of with intelligent life and look at how we behave towards each other. Yep, this is down to one man it seems but even so, we've created this world.
Not serious really but cannot help feel disappointed with the current situation
 
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The world's current nuclear weaponry is very far removed from the megaton class of warhead which would actually be a problem, residual fallout dissipates fairly rapidly though some places would be far less hospitable than others (major cities, suspected bunkers).

I'd be rather more worried about warlordism and all the other tropes of post-apocolyptica.
 
Mik3 said:
Some British arrived to fight.

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Just to add some light hearted ness to the situation, Russia is now defeated as a Liverpoolian soldier is going to fight Russia, by the end of next week there will be no Russian tanks and vehicles left with NO wheels. :D

So so brave that people from UK and other countries are going to fight in the name of protecting innocent people and standing up for freedom of speech. :)
 
Most those people going over to fight from other countries are probably the people who like violence or miss the thrill if they ever fought in a real war.
Wayne couzens probably would have been straight over there.

probably mostly football hooligan types and thugs like the people patrolling the streets of Poland in the previous week and mobbing anyone whos not white that crossed the border.
I don't think our media is showing that footage though?

wordy said:
From what everyone has seen over that last week a Russian armoured battle group would get absolutely minced by a American, French or British one.
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from our propaganda sure.
we are as bad as the Russians for believing "we are all that"

all we ever fought was people with crappy weapons for about 50 years, it's like spawn killing noobs in BF or whatever and thinking you are a god.

Ever notice american jets stopped flying over Syria as soon as Russia moved it's AA there and forced a no fly zone
 
Gibbo said:
The right thing to do is to decommission them all, but trying to get every country to comply that has them to do that is unlikely.

Even if we avoid WW3 this time and nuclear strikes this time, is it only a matter of time before the human race wipes itself out?

It is a shame that some countries, infact my mistake, some people / rulers have this need for power over others, attacking a neighbouring country on a whim is just appalling, it is proven when countries align and peace prevails, everyone is better off.

It is a shame countries such as China, Russia feel the need to control the people and feed them the propaganda war machine, yet these same countries love the technologies and luxury items of the West.

The future is renewable energies and countries having their own energy supplies it seems.
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I think the mistake we make is to think only countries like China and Russia controls its people and uses Propaganda.

Have you seen what Canada is doing to its truckers? Have you ever heard of a man called Edward Bernays? He’s American and far more influential than you can imagine.

The most interesting man in the world.” “Reach out and touch someone.” “Finger-lickin’ good.” Such advertising slogans have become fixtures of American culture, and each year millions now tune into the Super Bowl as much for the ads as for the football.

While no single person can claim exclusive credit for the ascendancy of advertising in American life, no one deserves credit more than a man most of us have never heard of: Edward Bernays.

I first encountered Bernays through an article I was writing on propaganda, and it quickly became clear that he was one of the 20th century’s foremost salesmen of ideas. The fact that 20 years have elapsed since his death provides a fitting opportunity to reexamine his legacy.
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https://theconversation.com/the-man...rnays-and-the-birth-of-public-relations-44393
 
Gibbo said:
well now the potential of a war or something bigger is going to be vastly more harmful to the planet.
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the planet will survive and recover quite well. the human race, not so much. in fact the planet might recover from the effects of decades of industrialisation and pollution a whole lot quicker with much of the worlds large urban environments reduced to rubble.
don't worry about the world dying if WW3 kicks of. the only thing dying will be the human race (or at least retreating back to stone age levels of population!)
 
Gibbo said:
Just to add some light hearted ness to the situation, Russia is now defeated as a Liverpoolian soldier is going to fight Russia, by the end of next week there will be no Russian tanks and vehicles left with NO wheels. :D

So so brave that people from UK and other countries are going to fight in the name of protecting innocent people and standing up for freedom of speech. :)
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Going by his age I would expect he’s a Falklands vet and possibly Iraq war.
 
Gibbo said:
Just to add some light hearted ness to the situation, Russia is now defeated as a Liverpoolian soldier is going to fight Russia, by the end of next week there will be no Russian tanks and vehicles left with NO wheels. :D
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Haha yeah, ship all the scousers over, they will make short work of that convoy :D
 
arknor said:
from our propaganda sure.
we are as bad as the Russians for believing "we are all that"

all we ever fought was people with crappy weapons for about 50 years, it's like spawn killing noobs in BF or whatever and thinking you are a god.

Ever notice american jets stopped flying over Syria as soon as Russia moved it's AA there and forced a no fly zone
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Not really propaganda is is that the Russians have been exposed to be vulnerable.

They’ll have done it did to lessen tensions between the 2 wasn’t worth a accidental escalation as Syria wasn’t worth it
They dont have air superiority over Ukraine yet so if push came to shove we’d fair a lot better.
 
Andrew_McP said:
Well worth half an hour of your time IMO,
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Thank you. Took the time to watch it as I tend to like his take on things - somewhat to the point even if it means upsetting other people in the room.

I would agree with most of what he says. We have certainly been caught with out pants down and he airs what many of us have known for a while - we've gone soft. Hopefully this will be just the wake up call the west needs.
 
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