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Caporegime
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I love these attitudes

Russia is bombing the country, women and children are dying as collateral damage. Freedoms are stripped from people that can’t defend themselves.

But gman ain’t doing **** because **** the man…

Don’t worry mate, the army wouldn’t want someone of your moral character


Russia can't even defeat Ukraine next door. If they were powerful enough and daring enough to ever do anything substantial to the UK, I'm sure our military wouldn't be relying on nerds off OcUK or Barry and his mates down the local boozer.
 
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Not really, they simply couldn't afford them. They were being demolished in their thousands before the trust helped stop it.

Either way the sense of service and duty from the political elite today doesn't exist.
what people with lots of land couldn’t afford a large house? Odd I deal with quite a few rich families dating back centuries and they all keep the house.

Go to any national trust house and the most common story is the boys were lost in either war and the family grew old and left it to the trust.

The political elite, yeah harry never fought in Afghanistan and there isn’t a mps son fighting in Ukraine….

Maybe actual state facts than opinions, this isn’t Reddit where you can down vote any opinion you don’t like
 
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Country is screwed anyway so they can get stuffed, nothing in this country I really want to protect or die for just so the cowards who send in us pawns can hide in their shelters. If the immigrants coming in on boats love this country so much let see what happens if they get conscripted, bet they would all sod off overnight but knowing this pathetic government they will all be exempt.

Look at all the people that died in WW1 or WW2, they'd be turning in their grave if they could see what a woke, ********* nation this place has turned into. So no, I'm not dying or potentially loosing limbs for this country as it stands today. I'd rather go to prison.
 
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I'm Scottish and would never, ever, consider myself British.

Why would any Scot fight for a Westminster Government that openly despises them?

So **** off, there is a reason we want Independence away from these knuckle dragging parcel of rogues.

Wish I was so naive to think a 'Scottish Government' would care for us even more,

Also we don't all want it, in fact the majority of us don't :)
 
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Russia can't even defeat Ukraine next door. If they were powerful enough and daring enough to ever do anything substantial to the UK, I'm sure our military wouldn't be relying on nerds off OcUK or Barry and his mates down the local boozer.
this whole situation is hypothetical, the enemy in paper was the Russians…

In a hypothetical war against the Russians the British army said it would need to draft…

It’s literally on the title, so you’ve just argued a null point and against the attitude and opinion of the army you just bigged up…
 
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what people with lots of land couldn’t afford a large house? Odd I deal with quite a few rich families dating back centuries and they all keep the house.
Yes. I suggest looking it up. Death duties and the agricultural depression during the last half of the 1800s absolutely crippled these families and the houses, social change during the first half of the 1900s then finished most of them off.
 
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Country is screwed anyway so they can get stuffed, nothing in this country I really want to protect or die for just so the cowards who send in us pawns can hide in their shelters. If the immigrants coming in on boats love this country so much let see what happens if they get conscripted, bet they would all sod off overnight but knowing this pathetic government they will all be exempt.

Look at all the people that died in WW1 or WW2, they'd be turning in their grave if they could see what a woke, ********* nation this place has turned into. So no, I'm not dying or potentially loosing limbs for this country as it stands today. I'd rather go to prison.
I got dual passport and would just bugger off somewhere else. Let flag shaggers and their hero Farage go and fight.
 
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For the love of god….

Just because you don’t like the politics of the country doesn’t mean there is no reason to fight for it.

The politics of a oppressive regime like that in Russia would be a lot worse than the one we have at home…

So many edge lords in this thread.

Here’s how it would go, first to be called up would be the reserves, then. Would be the recently released (I’m in this category) then it would be those with skills the army want (lorry drivers, warehousemen, clerks etc) to free up staff to move to combat roles, then it would be most likely the middle class and upper classes as the working classes are more likely to be reserved occupations.

This is all hypothetical, if you got called up and refused. You would be arrested under military law. This means a military prison no comfortable jail cell (think 6x6 cell and solitary) those that say they could handle this don’t know how well the army breaks people.

The likelihood is most people will say they are pacifist, in which case you would still be drafted and sent to a non combat unit think logistics, admin or medical.
 
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Country is screwed anyway so they can get stuffed, nothing in this country I really want to protect or die for just so the cowards who send in us pawns can hide in their shelters. If the immigrants coming in on boats love this country so much let see what happens if they get conscripted, bet they would all sod off overnight but knowing this pathetic government they will all be exempt.

Look at all the people that died in WW1 or WW2, they'd be turning in their grave if they could see what a woke, ********* nation this place has turned into. So no, I'm not dying or potentially loosing limbs for this country as it stands today. I'd rather go to prison.
Join me on the front line, a 48 year old with a 3, 6 and 9, year old boys. One wants to be a scientist who specialises in Space time and space travel (quite clever in that subject), one wants to be a 'vet', basically wants to look after all animals (he loves animals and looking after them), the 3rd, the 3 year old loves Paw Patrol. My kids and probably many of kids from members on these here forums, are worth fighting for. Dont think theres nothing to fight for in this country.
 
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100 posts of people mumping and moaning "well I'm not going to do it, they can toss me in jail *moan* *moan*" for something that has less than 1% chance of happening. So many triggered people :cry:

Its like a thread full of Cheesefests in here :cry:
What's even more funny is people getting triggered when you say you don't want to.....how dare you not fight for Britannia :D
 
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Yeh right.

Iraq - Dodgy Intelligence
Afghanistan - was it worth it?
Libya - Regime change, again another mess it ended up being. Was really about Ghaddafi giving up the dollar?
Syria - False flags galore, Cameron getting denied his airstrikes, people were fed up.

The governments clearly don't want to protect its own borders and too busy wrecking other countries.

Why would anyone help them war mongers in government go into another conflict.
Absolutely no chance.
 
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Caporegime
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With my non British passport i got a choice pal. Let those patriots fight wars for those ***** in suits.
You dont seem to get it, if we’re invaded you’re not fighting for the men in suits, you’re fighting for your country and all the good people in it. You’re fighting for your life, freedom and future. If you dont want to do that then you might as well leave now
 
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