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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

wow all the XTXs and 7800XTs are going up in price with everyone losing patience waiting for AMD to release their cards… maybe this was always the intention to delay to sell old stock.

Why would that be the intention? AMD sold out of stock of the MBA card months ago, as far as they're concerned what vendors have left its up to them as to what they do with it. What matters to amd is amd have none left. Another site still has 6900xt's that they're stuck with as well and still looking top dollar for them. :cry:
 
wow all the XTXs and 7800XTs are going up in price with everyone losing patience waiting for AMD to release their cards… maybe this was always the intention to delay to sell old stock.
7800XTs I'm not 100% sure how they'll hold up against 9070 series, just depends on 9070 non-XT pricing and how low it goes.
7900XT/Xs on the other hand, have a VRAM advantage over the new cards. So it makes sense why those sell, given the only new gen option above 16GB is a 5090.

Seems a bit crazy to buy now given it's just a few months to wait. Still though AMD will be happy
It's all part of the plan, esp if the new cards give at least 20% price/performance increase.

NGL, the sub £600 Hellhound 7900XT OCUK has is so tempting... maybe they know something we don't, hence the deals?
 
Why would that be the intention? AMD sold out of stock of the MBA card months ago, as far as they're concerned what vendors have left its up to them as to what they do with it. What matters to amd is amd have none left. Another site still has 6900xt's that they're stuck with as well and still looking top dollar for them. :cry:
Fair point. Thought AMD still had an interest in retail AIB sales but as you say once they’ve sold the chips it’s not their problem.
 
7800XTs I'm not 100% sure how they'll hold up against 9070 series, just depends on 9070 non-XT pricing and how low it goes.
7900XT/Xs on the other hand, have a VRAM advantage over the new cards. So it makes sense why those sell, given the only new gen option above 16GB is a 5090.


It's all part of the plan, esp if the new cards give at least 20% price/performance increase.

NGL, the sub £600 Hellhound 7900XT OCUK has is so tempting... maybe they know something we don't, hence the deals?
It is very tempting and I’m sure there’s a likely £599 price point for at least one of the 9070 models.
 
All I know is that I'm playing a lot of Company of Heroes 2 as of late as that is about the only thing of interest that my 980ti can handle on my 1440P UW. Tried some ONCE HUMAN on lowest of settings but I keep getting vram warnings :D and FPS isn't exactly great either spite using Vaseline.. err... I mean upscaling..

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+25% cost would be $625, i flipping hope not....

I hope its = to a 5070 Ti and $550, that would be great but it wont matter, here is why.

As a reminder the 4070 Ti was £300 to £400 more than the 7800 XT which is also a 16GB card, its reception was lukewarm, which to me is mental...

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+25% cost would be $625, i flipping hope not....

I hope its = to a 5070 Ti and $550, that would be great but it wont matter, here is why.

As a reminder the 4070 Ti was £300 to £400 more than the 7800 XT which is also a 16GB card, its reception was lukewarm, which to me is mental...

Probably because AMD launched it late,the RTX4070 dropped down to about £50 more on offer.

But the RTX5070 looks really mediocre so far - it's a very easy target for AMD to beat IMHO.

Hopefully the RX9060XT is Navi 48 based,as it should easily beat the RTX5060TI too.
 
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Probably because AMD launched it late,the RTX4070 dropped down to about £50 more on offer.

But the RTX5070 looks really mediocre so far - it's a very easy target for AMD to beat IMHO.

Hopefully the RX9060XT is Navi 48 based,as it should easily beat the RTX5060TI too.

As does the 5070 Ti, it can't be more than 15% better because if it is then it will have a smaller gap to the 5080 than the 4070 Ti had to the 4080, same with the 5070 ecte...

The 5080 is 15% better than the 4080.

Nvidia no longer sell performance, they sell features, tech jurnoes constantly waxing lyrical about the added value of DLSS its how we have been conditioned, yes Nvidia 'encouraged' that but the point is they were being conditioned to normalise this and had no flipping clue they are being manipulated.

Its that same 'programming' that makes it near impossible for AMD to do anything right and they keep learning this, even the 4070 was still £600+ at the time of 7800 XT review with a sub £500 price, ignoring the 16% faster 12GB £400 more expensive 4070 Ti HUB spent most of the review hating on it for its stupid name, didn't say anything about its comparison to the 4070 Ti or the 6700 XT that it replaced by price bracket and instead compared it to used 6800 XT's on FlyBay as a price comparison, ridiculous and cynically disingenuous, and their review was one of the better ones....

What do we think this teaches AMD after taking the deserved 7900 XT criticism and actually trying to make up for it?
 
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If the rumours of the massively improved RT performance are true along with how good early FSR4.0 looks like AND FSR frame gen being great.. i think even if the 9070 raster performance is only a marginally better than the 7800xt it will produce far better results. But hey, im an optimist.
 
As does the 5070 Ti, it can't be more than 15% better because if it is then it will have a smaller gap to the 5080 than the 4070 Ti had to the 4080, same with the 5070 ecte...

The 5080 is 15% better than the 4080.

Nvidia no longer sell performance, they sell features, tech jurnoes constantly waxing lyrical about the added value of DLSS its how we have been conditioned, yes Nvidia 'encouraged' that but the point is they were being conditioned to normalise this and had no flipping clue they are being manipulated.

Its that same 'programming' that makes it near impossible for AMD to do anything right and they keep learning this, even the 4070 was still £600+ at the time of 7800 XT review with a sub £500 price, ignoring the 16% faster 12GB £400 more expensive 4070 Ti HUB spent most of the review hating on it for its stupid name, didn't say anything about its comparison to the 4070 Ti or the 6700 XT that it replaced by price bracket and instead compared it to used 6800 XT's on FlyBay as a price comparison, ridiculous and cynically disingenuous, and their review was one of the better ones....

What do we think this teaches AMD after taking the deserved 7900 XT criticism and actually trying to make up for it?
I didn’t fall for the hate on the 7800xt and looked at performance vs the nearest competitor and thought it was bang on for price/performance. I looked back at a receipt from January 2021, for a quickly returned (due to buyers remorse) of a £1200 6900xt mba from a competitor and had a warm + nice feeling of the £800 I saved by getting the same performance (within 2%) for £400 in the 7800xt 2.5 years later.

With the 9070 non xt it needs to be max £500 and offer at least 30% performance gain over the 7800xt to be a winner really.

Then 9070 XT needs to be max £599 to offer near XTX levels of raster performance.
 
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Just seen hub joking in their latest qna that they may or may not have a stack of 9070xts just off camera waiting for review drivers.

Not really a shock there were stories about review samples going out during ces. But its a fun reminder of how bloody strange this launch has been.
 
As does the 5070 Ti, it can't be more than 15% better because if it is then it will have a smaller gap to the 5080 than the 4070 Ti had to the 4080, same with the 5070 ecte...

The 5080 is 15% better than the 4080.

Nvidia no longer sell performance, they sell features, tech jurnoes constantly waxing lyrical about the added value of DLSS its how we have been conditioned, yes Nvidia 'encouraged' that but the point is they were being conditioned to normalise this and had no flipping clue they are being manipulated.

Its that same 'programming' that makes it near impossible for AMD to do anything right and they keep learning this, even the 4070 was still £600+ at the time of 7800 XT review with a sub £500 price, ignoring the 16% faster 12GB £400 more expensive 4070 Ti HUB spent most of the review hating on it for its stupid name, didn't say anything about its comparison to the 4070 Ti or the 6700 XT that it replaced by price bracket and instead compared it to used 6800 XT's on FlyBay as a price comparison, ridiculous and cynically disingenuous, and their review was one of the better ones....

What do we think this teaches AMD after taking the deserved 7900 XT criticism and actually trying to make up for it?
This is why AMD are infuriating. The card is clearly a 7700xt and 7800xt in name only. I have a 7800xt named as a 7900xt. If AMD went with 7700xt the journo's would have compared it to last gen mid range along with the 4070.
 
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