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jpaul said:
you had suggested overnight temperature was the issue increasing the range which he had thought unlikely/refuted ..
and not been aware/suggested a more likely explanation revealed in a few seconds study on the internet - pretty sure it has never been discussed on this thread either..
( to wit. in B&W leaving the charge available to the car to allow it to balance the cells, for a period beyond the required charge level)
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Probably the sensor in the battery says it’s 10c rather than 0 so the computer works out more range.
 
chanjy said:
MG owners need hobbies that's all I'll say. Wow
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So for 6 months i have charged it as normal then on the MG site told it's recommended to do it every 3 to 6 months, it even says it in the manual.
I really can't see the problem doing it once in 6 months.
You want to explain why to go against MGs recommendations and why you know better?
Not having a dig, genuinely want to know because it's been a PITA doing it.
 
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for me the daftest thing (if MG suggest it) would be having to disable smart charging and forcing it to charge to 100% via a boost charge. That was my main concern with your take on it .

however I can't see that in the manual link posted.
btw my i3 manual states when not in use always plug the car in and keep at 100%. this goes against every battery recommendation going and indeed BMW themselves changed it on later cars.

as such personally I would go with what seems sensible to me.
You do you of course but if I didn't need the full absolute range of the car I would just stick with 20-80% rough charge and not sweat it. then do a proper rebalance every now and then when I may need the full range... ie, before a long journey.

long term storage keeping around 50% is also standard practice and makes sense.
 
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SexyGreyFox said:
You want to explain why to go against MGs recommendations and why you know better?
Not having a dig, genuinely want to know because it's been a PITA doing it.
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I think you've probably made it more of a PITA than it needed to be by going out of your way to drive the car when you didn't really need to, just to get the battery level down far enough etc. whereas most people would just wait another few days until the battery was at 10% anyway, charge it to 100% that day and then go back to their usual 30%>80% routine or whatever they usually do.
 
Kenai said:
I think you've probably made it more of a PITA than it needed to be by going out of your way to drive the car when you didn't really need to, just to get the battery level down far enough etc. whereas most people would just wait another few days until the battery was at 10% anyway, charge it to 100% that day and then go back to their usual 30%>80% routine or whatever they usually do.
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You don't understand, we had to charge it Sunday night because my wife is doing an 80 mile round trip today.
It was the only time to do it unless we waited another week and to be fair it only cost us around 50p yesterday :)

There is so much conflict on Google AI:
Don't charge it to 100% you'll depreciate the battery
Charge it to 100% once a week
Charge it to 100% now and again
You will ruin your battery if you charge often from 10% to 100%

From now on we'll take the advice of the best one I saw which suits us
Run your car between 20% and 80% and do a 100% charge when you need it which is what we did for 6 months.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
You don't understand, we had to charge it Sunday night because my wife is doing an 80 mile round trip today.
It was the only time to do it unless we waited another week and to be fair it only cost us around 50p yesterday :)
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So wait a week then?

Driving around for no reason with the heaters on full blast to deliberately use as much energy as possible is just completely unnecessary.

If it needs a balancing charge every few months, do one every few months whenever it suits you, don't create hassle for yourself to do it.
 
Kenai said:
So wait a week then?

Driving around for no reason with the heaters on full blast to deliberately use as much energy as possible is just completely unnecessary.

If it needs a balancing charge every few months, do one every few months whenever it suits you, don't create hassle for yourself to do it.
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We're going somewhere on Friday, so I meant another 3 weeks.
It really wasn't an hassle watching her driving round for 25 miles on the app :)
I daren't tell her she didn't have to do it because she was moaning her bag off all week :)
 
SexyGreyFox said:
From now on we'll take the advice of the best one I saw which suits us
Run your car between 20% and 80% and do a 100% charge when you need it which is what we did for 6 months.
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yep - seems a totally reasonable approach - after all, car is going to tell you if it really really needs a balancing charge,
but by ensuring charger would still be providing charge after it has reached the required level, it will (do a reasonable) balance even if at 80%
 
SexyGreyFox said:
We're going somewhere on Friday, so I meant another 3 weeks.
It really wasn't an hassle watching her driving round for 25 miles on the app :)
I daren't tell her she didn't have to do it because she was moaning her bag off all week :)
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So wait three weeks then.

Like I said, it was only a PITA because you made it a PITA.

Just do it when it suits you and it's no more of a pain than any other charge, it's just going from 10% to 100% instead of 50% or 80% or whatever you usually do.
 
SexyGreyFox said:
We're going somewhere on Friday, so I meant another 3 weeks.
It really wasn't an hassle watching her driving round for 25 miles on the app :)
I daren't tell her she didn't have to do it because she was moaning her bag off all week :)
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but its unneeded wear and tear on your car and not meaning to sound like a stinky tree hugger ( ;) ) but a total waste of energy as well.
 
bigmike20vt said:
but its unneeded wear and tear on your car and not meaning to sound like a stinky tree hugger ( ;) ) but a total waste of energy as well.
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She did take a parcel back to a Shopping Centre about 10 miles away and called in on our daughters so wasn't wasted but unnecessary.
We only do 15 miles a day tops (except today) so wear and tear for 25 miles is a bit over the top :)
Pretty sure most people here are doing way more than 100 miles a week.
 
FT don't suggest people are waiting for Juniper, besides, share-holders punished them & price dropped 9% - MG popular despite eu taxes

Tesla sales plummeted in Europe in January, suggesting waning demand for the US carmaker’s vehicles after its billionaire chief Elon Musk stepped up his high-profile interventions in the region’s politics.
The EV maker sold just 9,900 units in Europe last month, a decline of more than 45 per cent from the same period in 2024, according to data from the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. Its overall share of new car registrations fell to 1 per cent from 1.8 per cent over the same period.
Tesla’s falling market share comes after Musk’s unprecedented foray into EU politics, where he backed the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) ahead of the country’s elections, sparking a backlash on the continent. Musk has also railed against the EU, which he described in November as “undemocratic”.
The fall came even as European consumers purchased 166,000 battery EVs for the month, up 37 per cent from a year ago. Pure EV sales grew faster than those of all other types of vehicles, while sales of cars with petrol and diesel engines fell 20.5 per cent and 26.5 per cent, respectively.
The figures include the EU, UK and other markets including Norway, one of Europe’s biggest markets for EVs.
European sales by SAIC Motor, the Chinese state-backed carmaker that has expanded into the EU and partnered with Audi in China, rose 37 per cent to 23,000 vehicles in January, among the largest year-on-year increases in sales of any large manufacturer in the region.
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Well, I might be waiting for a Juniper but if they haven’t landed and count as a retail sale, they won’t appear in the metrics just how much of this do you not understand?

EDIT: also most the public think of gin if you say juniper, not an EV. Measuring Tesla sales by monthly numbers previous year month is a mugshot game. But I guess that sums up your analysis.
 
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