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dont get me wrong, i love the sound of a V6 / V8 / V10 or what ever in a super/hyper car but allowing them to keep using engines that other companies are barred from is nonsense.
where is the logic behind that? seems unfair to me if "family" cars are forced to clean up their act but rich peoples play things get a pass.
dont get me wrong, i love the sound of a V6 / V8 / V10 or what ever in a super/hyper car but allowing them to keep using engines that other companies are barred from is nonsense.
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i keep hearing this but surely that should not be the case. look back to where the infrastructure was in 2015.... it it incomparable.
that said.... it is true that we seen generally utterly incapable of getting anything done, so maybe it is true. it takes the .... however. Other countries seem to manage to have better infrastructure than we do as well as actually build stuff without going over budget by billions.
i have friends with EVs who have driven accross europe and they claim (I have not done it myself) that once out of the uk, places like France are a breeze.
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is it really tho? I know that is the excuse being used but it has been widely reported that this was going to happen before Trump .... the bed.
Perhaps you are right and it is a total coincidence, all the rumours were FUD and they were not gonna dial things back until Trump.... but after years of the government seemingly leaking rumours to the press to see how we respond before bringing in new policy......... i am in the if it looks and sounds like a duck then it is probably a duck camp.
put it this way.... IF Trump gets forced to back down will the initial time scales be put back in place? I doubt it myself
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Well a lot of companies having a mix of EV and ICE were still selling a lot of ICE to america. They cant. Keir Starmer has even said in global insecurity they need to react fast.
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Let be honest the luxury car tax was barely fit for purpose when it came in, let alone now regardless of EVs
Not many to worry about and the investment and indeed package issues is prohibitive for companys like morgan to continue to exist without some relaxation the volume manufacturer legislations
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The other day in an SC thread, one of the reasons you gave for offshore windfarms being a bad idea was because they would disrupt tides.
Tell me, why should we place any merit on anything you have to say in the climate change debate?
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If only we could harness the power of his hot air. Unlimited power for the ages.
I think the infrastructure in my area is WORSE than it was in 2015. The council installed a bunch of chargers, they stopped working or got damaged, they removed and never replaced them lol. In the town obviously most people live in flats, so no EVs for them.
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At least around where I live the public network is rubbish - fragmented, wildly varying prices and problem prone. The other day for some reason every single public charger in a nearby town (Sherborne) wasn't working, catching several people out and leaving at least a couple of people stranded, one resident was offering people could use their house one to charge enough to get to the next town where the public chargers were working if necessary.
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it is rubbish if they never replaced them.... but actually i would say it is better not having them at all than then being there but not working. (however sadly both options are rubbish) but personally as someone who actually does drive an EV (not a dig, honestly! but I am speaking from experience) if i am on a road trip and know i need to charge i can in advance easily check where the charge points are. There are loads so finding them is easy......... but the thing which personally gives me (mild) concern is getting to them and them being out of order.
So if your area the people who put in the charger are so utterly incompetent that they cant keep them working (OR you area is so full of anti EV scrotes or thieves who like to vandalise or steal the cable from them) then getting rid of broken ones is an improvement.
My parents live out in the sticks and there is no public charging within 5 miles of them, which on the surface is rubbish...... but on the flip side its in the sticks... just about everyone has a driveway so could charge from home. My mum told me she could never get an EV because of no public charging in her village. I asked her why she would ever need local public charging in her village when she has a driveway with room for 4 cars.
Towns, shopping centres and public car parks all need better charging and no one will argue that.... but, in my town at least, that is visibly happening. The cost of it needs to come down however. Maybe for EVs as part of the car tax, people with EVs could get a public charging allowance which would help.
This i believe would be better than the government subsidising actual charging companies because there would still be competition to keep prices down but the EV user could get half price charging for 500kwh a year to be used anywhere it could be a nice carrot for those forced to regularly publicly charge.
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Well the thing is, they are still on the map. The parking spaces are even still marked, but they just aren't there or are basically trashed, probably by vandals or someone running in to them.
It's not like a petrol station where someone is tending to it 24/7.
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Most seem to have disappeared from Google Maps at some point this year, but there was around 6 sites within 12 miles of me which have been on the maps for years showing as available but beyond the marked bays slowly fading away and a post for the signs no actual chargers were ever installed.
One of them the Nissan dealer near me - if someone was desperate they'd run a cable out a nearby window but the chargers never got installed (again removed from the maps finally some time this year but were showing since at least 2020).
There was a big drive to install them running up to COVID. But now that box has been ticked the councils don't care.
They are also vanishing from work carparks. We have free chargers, but they are going once the fixed energy deal comes to an end as the company no longer wants to pay for it.
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I agree but ev's are impacted more than ice vehicles because they are more expensive. There needs to be a higher incentive...
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less so now. I have no issue with luxury car tax for actual luxury cars - EVs or ICE cars....... but it needs to be implemented better.
There are plenty of EVs coming under the luxury car price even now however so I am not sure the luxury car tax is that big of a blocker for getting an EV. At least the government are not going backwards on the luxury car tax costs on cars sold a few years ago like they are with the standard taxation.
I wont lie however... I am peed off that my wifes i3 we had to pay luxury car tax on the damn thing due to its 600cc motorbike engine (stupid thing i never wanted a REX car and the only petrol it uses is keeping the engine primed).
The i3 is many things......... but luxury car it is not.
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But then consider something like the Niro EV; if you go for the "3" which is the midrange trim, and add metallic paint, it's over £40k. I think you'd struggle to find anyone who would consider a midrange family hatchback with a Kia badge to be a "luxury" car!
Kia EV9 /thread.