Tommy Robinson quits the EDL

IMHO, Tommy Robinson (not actual name) was the greatest leader that the EDL ever had, almost Salladin-esque in nature in attempting to create a cohesive ideal in terms of religious beliefs free of the extremes (see movie Kingdom of Heaven for similar imagery). Having read a little into the Quilliam foundation, a think thank composed of high powered intellectuals similar to the Star Trek Voyager episode 'Think Tank', I must say I have to congratulate them on their facilitation, though I fail to see where Tommy and Carroll will fit in intellectually?

Whilst I have no love for the EDL. I do believe this leaves an obvious conundrum.. is the EDL dead? Will there be another group to fill the vacuum? Will ordinary people be left defenceless on the street when faced with criminals such as those who attacked Lee Rigby?

Perhaps the answer is for another moderate such as Spie, someone with significant financial backing and similar candid views in respect to political correctness ready to step in and lead from the front to build up an anti-extremist organisation similar to the successful businesses built up in the past to stand up to the likes of Anjem Choudry on the political front. Just a thought..

On a side note, that Treason picture is simply hilarious, purely in humour terms!
 
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Their ideas are true?

Can I take this to mean that they are a National Front, Neo Nazi, inherently racist and oppressive group of individuals?

It's not the way they go about their business that is wrong, it is their whole ethos.
They were against a religion not against color, a lot of people don't get that. The anti Fascist groups were extremely violent.
 
He's a co-founder, though. So he wasn't chosen to represent them, at least not from all the members that they have.

He is the face of xenophobia (other than Hitler and Nick Griffin), but he is quite articulate. I wouldn't call him dense. He has his views, controversial though they are, and I that a lot of his party take them too far, outside of his control.

What about all those Muslim extremists are they not the face of xenophobia, or is that word only used for white people. When you hear Muslim extremists say death to the British isn't that racism, and when people say horrible things about Muslims that is not racism.
The word has been misused so often that people who use do not understand it.

The EDL do what most deep inside what most British white or black want to say to do but have no guts to do, now is the EDL racist, the newspapers have used that word because of the strong negative connotations it has, or is the EDL a nationalist movement?
and by labeling the EDL by the newspapers a racist group could it not have attracted the wrong types of people because of teh label placed by newspapers et al , dooming it as a movement.
 
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What about all those Muslim extremists are they not the face of xenophobia, or is that word only used for white people. When you hear Muslim extremists say death to the British isn't that racism, and when people say horrible things about Muslims that is not racism.
The word has been misused so often that people who use do not understand it.
It's entirely possible for both groups to be in the wrong, different sides to the same kind of mentality.

The fact some Muslims are inciting violence doesn't justify the kind of small minded bigoted attitudes you see in the EDL.

Richard Dawkins is fully capable of criticising elements of Islamic extremism without joining the EDL.
 
Yes, which is as bad as stoning a women to death.

What point exactly are you trying to make?.

Are you really trying to justify your casual racism under the guise of supporting rights for women? - you don't strike me as a proponent of equalitarianism to be honest.

Using the word bad shows you don't care about women. I asked what religion you was
and you come back with "your casual racism" playing that card already! your card is now marked ;)
 
Watched it last night.

IF he is genuine then fair play to him. On a personal level he "grew up" and saw the errors of his ways. Now will he start again and become the new Nick Griffin that no one will take serious because of his tarnished past?

Hopefully he will just go off the radar into semi obscurity.
 
Im glad he finally stepped down he is not a natural speaker, constantly brings up the asian peadophile gangs on talk shows and in general talks gibberish and gets his with the rascist stick so much he loses control and fails to win the arguement.Geert Wilder's is my choice to fight what is inevitably coming to Europe.Yet even Geert gets hit with chants of being rascist too.

Someone inside the EU is on purpose pulling these strings to kill Europe.Ive been looking into this for a while now and i think i found out the truth.I came across a interview by a former hungarian anti communist who was jailed and is now talking about a resurge of communism inside the EU.The aim was partially to first isolate europe in a block,repeal its laws and kill of any forms of nationalism by massive islamic immigration.But they key part was and the link is on my laptop he said that there would be a massive media campaign to label and harass anyone who opposed this with hate laws and labelling of racist and racism!

That has happened right now! And Europe is being filled by hate filled islamists.My native Ireland is being invaded from Dublin up.The Emir of Qatar is buying land for 16,000 houses in clonskeagh and funded one of the biggest mosques in europe.Sheikh Halawa who runs it, is actually linked to the same muslim brotherhood who are trying to topple Egypt and who unfairly rigged the elections hence why the army kicked them out.His two daughters were jailed in Egypt, google the halawa four for the blog and evidence.


But its not just in Ireland, its in the netherlands, no go sharia only zones in paris,belgium,luton,london and what about birmingham and bradford? Im worried about it immensly as i have been researching into the motives of muslims in europe and from what i have saw its conquest through immigration and then high birth rates.


Hell you only need to go on youtube and type in no go areas in paris and belgium to see what happens once the muslim population reaches 25%.Salafist and wahabbism is rampant throughout the EU.And those people who are siding with unite against fascism and calling people racists are one of the main problems here.Its a very dangerous game to play one that before gave rise to a certain man called Hitler.And to prove that its not coming from inside the UK go a google search on the origins of our beloved prime minister.

Cameron's grandfather was a jewish communist from outside of the UK.And red ed the commie was also born to polish jewish communists.And guess who has bore the brunt of the immigration? Yup that's right Germany.The same germany that is being run by a communism schooled merkel and has been crippled with 3 million turkish residents and have cresh and primary schools overflowing.Some of the schools are so bad, the german kids have been pulled out by thier parents because of the racism by the turkish youth.I have saw it on youtube myself with turkish kids beating up german kids and bringing the same knife culture from turkey into germany.



This is a complete joke, the countrys populated by Muslims are complete ****holes no sane person would visit nevermind emigrate too.And we are purposly taking in hordes of them? Do we really want the face of our nation changed so much in the next fifty years? Changes i remind everyone will not be reversable.Luton and bradford by way if birth rates will eventually become asian towns inside the UK.

Im sure the next generation of native europeans would want a say on this?





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3I6OkqTKA0

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9975937/Inside-Britains-Sharia-courts.html

http://holgerawakens.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/goodbye-belgium25-of-belgian-capital-is.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23139784

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/e...nconvenient_truth_the_islamisation_of_europe/
 
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Tommy Yaxley Lennon Robinson has recognised that fighting fire with fire was never going to be the answer. If you look and listen to the youtube videos the EDL marches are little more than anti-islam façades.

The speakers can't help but spew hate towards muslims rather than islamist extremists that Tommy claimed that he was against.

The cynic in me is also thinking that given his open court cases on illegal entry to the US and money laundry charges he wants to show that he has changed his ways so the court can be lenient
 
Effectively you want to stamp out the civil liberties of the likes of the EDL, NF, BNP because you don't agree with their stance. Not affording them the civil liberties you claim are important.

I don't want to stamp out any civil liberties at all, unless what is claimed as 'civil liberties' is actually a front for oppression (which is why I mentioned EDL, BNP and NF).
 
wow for the first time gilly has not said edl have murdered 100000s :)

about time we banned religion.
 
wow for the first time gilly has not said edl have murdered 100000s :)

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Just because I hate the EDL and all they stand for doesn't mean I've accused them of murder at all, let alone murdering hundreds of thousands. That is the worst kind of straw man argument I've ever seen.

Find me one post where I've ever accused the EDL of murder.
 
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Just because I hate the EDL and all they stand for doesn't mean I've accused them of murder at all, let alone murdering hundreds of thousands. That is the worst kind of straw man argument I've ever seen.

Find me one post where I've ever accused the EDL of murder.


Yeh you did. There was a thread where you said it then all of a sudden posts was edited hmmmm you hate them that much.

And it's not just me that noticed what happened ;)
 
I don't want to stamp out any civil liberties at all, unless what is claimed as 'civil liberties' is actually a front for oppression (which is why I mentioned EDL, BNP and NF).

WTF do u call the scale of immigration in Europe then? Dude wake up your selling out your kids and its basically a non issue to most of you.Islam IS oppression and you guy's who find it easy to talk crap on here have probably never read any of the Quran,Hadiths or the many many Fatwa's created out of it.For example do you even know who Rushdie is?

It is oppression on your kids,thier jobs,thier security,thier ethincity,thier natural resources.Britain is a tiny Island so is Belgium given its small mass.And now they are one of the most crowded areas in the world.Tell me about birth rates please and without calling anyone a racist, can u explain why white british people have essentually the british family of two kids? How many immigrant family's do you see with only two kids?


If this is not oppression i do not know what is.You may hate the EDL and im not a huge fan myself but islamification is not an issue in your eyes? Maybe if you hated Islamification as much as you hated the BNP i would not be thinking of calling you a traitor to everything that is British.
 
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