Doctor Who

BombayMix · 26 Jun 2017 at 13:56

Werewolf said:
The Conversion Theatre as the operating room

And they had an old classic look

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberman#/media/File:All_Cyberman_Versions.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberman#/media/File:270811-041_CPS_(6277339302).jpg

J.T · 26 Jun 2017 at 14:46

Steampunk said:
The Master from the past crossing his own future timeline? But that's MADNESS you say! The Master is a crazy Timelord!

But that's MADNESS!

Pigeon_Killer · 26 Jun 2017 at 18:46

I think this has been the weakest series by far but that episode was exceptional. Just hope they didn't peak with the first episode because most two parters start strongly and finish on a whimper and PC deserves to go out on a high.

I reckon we've still got one big reveal/twist left as well

Missy to become the next Doctor perhaps?

Dalandius · 26 Jun 2017 at 19:40

One thing I wish they would stop is the "Coming next week" spoiler at the end of the program but atleast I be ready to turn over and not see it. The bigger problem is when the advertised the program by showing the "good" part of the next program. I want to watch next weeks episode next week not in 10 second advertises through out the week.

Maybe we should all complain about it www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/contact_us/making_a_complaint.html

ci_newman · 1 Jul 2017 at 23:24

Well... I guess we wait until Xmas then

Moonpie2 · 2 Jul 2017 at 04:54

Not as enjoyable as the 1st part I thought. But still good fun.

However they still seem to keep falling into the same trap whenever a 'big moment' happens and they drag it out until all feeling is gone.

Glanza · 2 Jul 2017 at 09:53

Missy and the Master were the highlight for the finale, felt like lazy writing to suddenly bring puddle girl back out of the blue.

6 month wait to find out what happens, it's like they watched The Walking Dead and decided having a crappy cliffhanger was the best way to end it.

ivrytwr3 · 2 Jul 2017 at 09:55

Excellent, absolutely excellent.

I originally really disliked Capaldi as the Doctor, but now i see the (bad) writing was very much to blame and he was not supported when first taking the role. If this last 2 parter level of writing could have been kept up then he had the makings of being a fantastic Doctor. Disappointed to see him go now

(he doesn't do the speeches as well as Matt Smith though).

Loved this episodes, nods back to original Cyberman (scarecrow cybermen were creepy AF!), Master and Missy dialogue (really like Simms as the Master) bringing back the 'Pilot' from a previous episode (fitting end for Bill). And really enjoyed that ending - just as the Doctor is ready to throw in the towel, "you are not THE Doctor, but A Doctor" - yeah!!!! That should be an interesting conversation come Christmas.

Did i say i really enjoyed these last 2 episodes??

Destination · 2 Jul 2017 at 09:59

Is this chap at the end meant to be portraying william hartnell, as in the original doctor, or some other doctor.

ivrytwr3 · 2 Jul 2017 at 10:14

William Hartnell, the original Doctor ie THE Doctor.

HeX · 2 Jul 2017 at 10:15

Hikari Kisugi said:
Is this chap at the end meant to be portraying william hartnell, as in the original doctor, or some other doctor.

Looks like he's meant to Hartnell.

ivrytwr3 · 2 Jul 2017 at 10:19

And so we reach the twelfth Doctor’s final journey. Judging by the first Doctor’s clothing and dialogue, the snowy location they are in is the South Pole in 1986 during the closing moments of William Hartnell’s final story (and the first Cybermen tale), 1966’s The Tenth Planet. With the day saved, a very weak first Doctor declared to his companions Ben and Polly that he needed to leave for the TARDIS immediately and rushed out ahead of them. This final scene (and the Christmas special) almost certainly takes place between his leaving the Cybermen’s ship and Ben and Polly returning to the TARDIS to find the Doctor already inside and about to change for the first time…

But that’s a story for when the Doctors return at Christmas.

Destination · 2 Jul 2017 at 10:32

HeX said:
Looks like he's meant to Hartnell.

Thought so, rather hoping it was.

Pigeon_Killer · 2 Jul 2017 at 10:57

Thought that was another incredibly weak episode. Don't really know what the point of the Master or Missy being in it actually was, apart from a bit of banter between them all it felt like a wasted opportunity after Missy had been involved in so many episodes and the Master rarely appears. Why not let Bill go out in a blaze of glory and let Missy save the Doctor, would've justified her involvement for so long.

Christmas special looks like it could be interesting though.

ivrytwr3 · 2 Jul 2017 at 11:02

The whole thing was about the Doctor trying to redeem Missy, it was the Cybermen that was the background story driver.

Rikh · 2 Jul 2017 at 11:10

For those that didn't notice the bloke playing the Doctor at the end was David Bradley who played William Hartnell in An Adventure in Space and Time the dramatisation from 2013 about Hartnell and early Doctor Who.

Glanza · 2 Jul 2017 at 15:15

Most people these days will know him as Walder Frey from GOT or the old dude from The Strain.

fez · 2 Jul 2017 at 15:46

I didn't quite understand what happened with Missy and the master... She "killed" him so that he would regenerate into her and he then "killed" her when she turned her back on him. He made it sound like that was the end for her as well. No regeneration would be possible due to the way he did it. If thats the case, when they were deliberating how to kill the doctor by dropping him off the roof a load of times didn't the master just zap him like he did Missy?

ivrytwr3 · 2 Jul 2017 at 15:51

that's a fair point - off to google!

Bubo · 2 Jul 2017 at 16:00

Glanza said:
Most people these days will know him as Walder Frey from GOT or the old dude from The Strain.

To me he'll always be Stemroach.