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If they want to eat dogs they can. It's hypocrisy for any meat eater to tell them they can't.
Would you say the same if they were eating humans ?
oh and pangolin and bats back on the menu yay
If they want to eat dogs they can. It's hypocrisy for any meat eater to tell them they can't.
Would you say the same if they were eating humans ?
oh and pangolin and bats back on the menu yay
That seems like an reductive argument to me...
Ignoring my empathy for animals for a moment, if the dogs are treated well enough (obviously most aren't in this situation, but if they were...), why is it cruel to eat them as apposed to pigs?
For some extra contemplation, what about designer dogs? Is it more or less cruel to eat an animal or to make it suffer genetic defects forever for personal gratification?
Isn't it common knowledge that Chinese people will basically try and eat anything with a heartbeat?
Would you say the same if they were eating humans ?
oh and pangolin and bats back on the menu yay
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, so I'll just leave it.
Just a hint though, the main issue isn't the fact that they choose to eat dogs. It is the unneccessary barbaric and disgusting cruelty and torture they put them through, which is in no way comparable to a quick bolt in the brain for a farm animal.
Please don't quote me if you choose to reply, because I'm not interested in what you have to say.
Thankyou in advance for your cooperation.
Is there since sort of vegan/vegetarian 'play book' about using chimps for arguments? I only ask because you're the third person I've seen using this same argument.Our closest relatives are chimps. They eat insects but I don't see any of them taking down large animals like cows and eating beef burgers.
If you were to look at it from outside the box. Killing a deer is no different to killing a human.
Life is life.
What I am saying is people shouldn't be eating meat at all and those that say humans were designed to eat meat don't have a clue.
Our closes relatives are chimps. They eat insects but I don't see any of them taking down large animals like cows and eating beef burgers.
I have been strongly considering going vegetarian for nearly 2 years now. It would be easy since majority of my meals already are plus my wife hasn't ate meat since she was a child. So majority of home cooked meals are vegetarian in my household.
I'm also lactose intolerant. So I have no dairy milk. I do have butter and Yogurt here and there but not in large quantities. I wouldn't go vegan but I have already cut majority of dairy from my diet.
Put it this way. If the UK ran out of food. And people were dying in the streets I guarantee you people would eat other people here in the UK. Its not as if the people here are any different just that they have been told from birth its okay to eat everything on this menu. And all this stuff you can't.
Much like the flowers and weeds. Think about it weeds are flowers. Just someone decided they don't look as nice and they should be ripped out and replaced with stuff that looks nice. Logically it makes zero sense other than to please other people who think your garden looks nice because they are programmed to think it looks nice.
If they want to eat bat's it's hypocritical for any meat eater to say they can't. Only a vegetarian can but then they will say that for all meat and that is what I am getting at the 2 are no different. They can eat dogs all day long.
Put it this way. If the UK ran out of food. And people were dying in the streets I guarantee you people would eat other people here in the UK. Its not as if the people here are any different just that they have been told from birth its okay to eat everything on this menu. And all this stuff you can't.
The best way to avoid speciesism is to avoid animal products full stop .its not that this is one side of the argument ,this is right and other opinions are wrong ,they just dont have the empathy or education to see it.
the only blurred line i see is animal products that dont come from suffering ,here http://www.henheaven.org/ so the more they sell the more rescues occur.
(keeps running for cover )
In the aftermath of this, when the final body count is known and and everything has been tallied up, the human cost, economic cost - how do we think things will differ between the west and China?
I think change is inevitable, but exactly what it looks like I have no idea..
**Contreversial opinion alert**
Unless your vegetarian/vegan then you have no place condemning China
this happens throughout the world.
I dont really wanna argue with you because we are both stubborn and have our opinions so no matter what... nothing changes but....
1) a weed is a plant species that you have not planted as part of your garden. Gardens are planned and ordered man made creations, thus, ANYTHING that grows that you did not plan and plant is a "weed"
Common weed species are weeds because they are super adaptive and rapid growing if given a chance. That is a weed. Of course a weed can look nice. A wild garden is equally as valid as a Planned garden. Its your purpose that decides.
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You seeming to be so blasé with cannibalism makes me laugh, as a near self confessed Vegan... I am still So So So happy that i have been told from Birth that cannibalism is like the 0.00001% last resort of survival and im sure after 14 days of starving id be ready to take the plunge too.
3)Do you understand that We westerners differentiate between domesticated house animals and food animals. yes or no answer only.
If yes i suggest that is why most people get upset when you/they eat our pets. Being outraged by that is a completely normal human thing......For me.
#Its like saying when someone does a crime just execute them, doesn't matter how petty, crimes a crime. There are degrees of crime like we have given animals degrees of value.
One set of humans doesn't follow my values and judgements, well its in my power to change them to see it my way. EXACTLY the same way that vegans and some veges preach to us.
If no one is allowed to have an opinion on ANYTHING anyone does or says then thats a state of anarchy.
Are you a hindu or buddhist? Its very rare people think its so "live and let live" that cooking "pets" is fine and acceptable in the UK. I mean why do we have laws protecting domesticated animals? Lets not even mention horses.
Its fine, dont answer because you will just repeat yourself like i do and use the same patronising "stupid" or "uneducated" insults that have started going about.
I literally dont think i have anything more to add now I will keep living my Superior way and not boiling my cats when its tea time.
It's illegal in Western countries, where we have the world's best animal welfare standards and the best quality food. And a culture that believes torturing animals to death is wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Size_Me_2:_Holy_Chicken!
there are plenty of documentaries like the above on netflix which show you the meat industry and it's quite frankly disgusting you are eating pus. think about that. do you even know what pus is? also because the time to cut animals is decreased in slaughterhouses so profits are bigger. the butchers end up cutting stuff on accident and then you have faeces all over the meat, etc.
Is there since sort of vegan/vegetarian 'play book' about using chimps for arguments? I only ask because you're the third person I've seen using this same argument.
Chimps not only eat insects but they also actively hunt meat. There are numerous documentary videos showing the practice and even Dr Jane Goodall recorded them leading organised, obviously well-practised, hunts of red colobus monkeys for food. Meat only makes up a small fraction (<5%) of their diet but they do hunt and eat meat.
The analogy of them hunting cows should be embarrassing for you to reread. It's the first kind of strawman tactic. Of course they don't hunt cows and eat burgers. Cows don't tend to live in the same geographic locales, they're far larger and thus an active threat to a chimp and chimps don't cook or actively process their food.
If you want to be a vegetation, go ahead but please stop preaching to others and, if that is just too hard for you, then at least try using facts, rather than emotive and nonsensical strawman arguments.
Firstly, I have never seen an anti-meat documentary that was 100% honest, and fully supported by evidence. Secondly, no you are not eating pus or faeces, because any meat that was contaminated in this way would never make it past quality control.