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China's 'wet markets' have reopened

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Vega, Apr 3, 2020.

  1. Nasher

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    Avocado are one of the latest food fads.
     
  2. pooley

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    avocado's are high in the wrong type of fat 'monounsaturated', our bodies are best suited for saturated fat ie 'animal fat' and that is demonised in the mainstream and people believe this, even you have pointed this out so your claim it's one one of the healthiest things you can eat is simply not true..

    as to the rest of the foodstuffs you mention they too have issues like bioavailability, oxaltes and antinutrients.
    you also need to cook them to death just to access the little nutrition they contain and not cause you problems because good luck eating them raw..
    i agree different people get on with different types of foods but to compare what you eat to the lowest common denominator ie a crap western diet does not give it much merit.
     
  3. StriderX

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    Whether something is wrong or right is going to have to require a citation, the fact is that everything is wrong in excess, in moderation most things are good for you, the problem is that most people eat way too much awful meat.

    People would get more out of their diets if meat was more natural and eaten less often, it would also solve most of the other issues that come with intensive farming for society and the environment.
     
  4. rIcK

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    The thing about these 'Wet Markets' is they are stacked high, each animal dropping faeces onto the cages and animals below. They are then cut and handled by hands and knives which touch everything. This includes tonnes of wild animals which they are actually encouraged to breed.

    And so you end up with prime conditions for cross contamination which would never happen in the western world and how SARS and the COVID 19 outbreaks both began. Yet each and every time they ban it for a little while then re-open it. Its complete insane.
     
  5. RxR

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    I only eat meat 6 days a week, and fish the 7th. Fish count as wet market food I presume.
     
  6. Colonel_Klinck

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    These places are barbaric. However so is bull fighting. So is fox hunting. So is veal farming. So is foie gras. And the intensive farming of chickens and other animals isn’t that much better when it comes to animal welfare.
     
  7. StriderX

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    Fish don't generally pose a health risk, though we're excessively fishing and the oceans are toxifying, so they may well just go extinct at the current rate.
     
  8. RxR

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    If oceans toxify, meat 7 days a week it will have to be. The fish was only a concession made as I was raising daughters on my own - they like such things.
     
  9. Bassmansam

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    Jeeze, the video on the Mirror's website complaining about people eating dog meat :rolleyes:.

    I have no problem with that although the method of killing is not humane.
     
  10. Moothead2

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    As with most things people complain about it's not what they do it's how they do it in my opinion. I'm sure most of those complaining about eating dogs have no problem with eating meat despite being sacred in India.
     
  11. Bassmansam

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    Lol. Your grammar is a good sign of your intelligence.
     
  12. moon man

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    Lol. really ?
     
  13. Ahleckz

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    Why is following a vegan diet retarded?
     
  14. antijoke

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    What a ******* joke.

    It’s just like the Japanese and their whaling, it’s barbaric and needs shutting down.
     
  15. iamtheoneneo

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    Absolutely zero reason to be consuming this much meat...
     
  16. FoxEye

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    It's a fairy tale.

    Follow the money.

    Until making stuff in China is more expensive than making it here... not a bat's chance in a Wuhan market.
     
  17. RxR

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    That's a wacko comment worth ignoring.
     
  18. drunkenmaster

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    I am vegetarian, but it's not at all hypocritical to condemn it. I dislike the meat industry but the difference between slaughtering pigs in a slaughter house which can be cleaned, controlled, washed constantly, tracked and traced if bad meat turns up in a super market, regulators checking they are cleaning regularly and shut downs of anywhere constantly breaking the rules.... and animals killed on site in places that have basically zero effort put into cleaning/disinfecting either before or after? There is no comparison, aside from the fact it is less humane (though slaughterhouses are still horrible), the animals are kept on top of each other, animals can carry diseases, no one is checking the farms these animals come from. No one is putting codes on the packaging so that if a few people get sick they can trace who sold it, when, and go and check the conditions and fine them to hell and back of close them down if they keep failing checks.

    There is no comparison. For me animal meat just shouldn't be a thing, but the difference between slaughterhouses that are regulated and cleaned and random streets people just kill animals right there and then with zero regulation, it's insane.

    These situations are begging for cross contamination between animals, sick animals to be missed, not checked or in any way attempted to be kept away. This is literally how disease spreads, mutates and becomes dangerous.
     
  19. laiT

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    hmmm what about the chicken factory fiasco we had a few years back? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ret-uk-poultry-industry-chicken-campylobacter
    I'm sure they were regulated and I don't think they were bothered about tracking bad meat.
     
  20. iamtheoneneo

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    well that will be because you know its true..you dont have a reason for eating meat 6 days a week apart from ego.