Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Hopefully not an increase of the thermo-nuclear type of energy
At least I could heat my home without taking out a second mortgageHopefully not an increase of the thermo-nuclear type of energy
That's the other worrying thing, not only could Russia, in theory, completely take Ukraine by surprise by sending in troops from Belarus directly to Kiyv, a bit of "maskirovka" but there could actually be some insider support, possible coup etc..
Ukraine had to purge some of its special forces, various members defected to the Russian side, there is still the risk of insiders within the government or military defecting to Russia and or facilitating a possible coup as potential new puppet leaders.
Could turn out that Putin has built up all these forces but only intends to push into the disputed areas or perhaps a little bit further, maybe take some land directly adjacent to Crimea etc.. but the risk of a full-on invasion is certainly there and Russia has built up the forces they'd perhaps need to try and attempt it - the resulting potential for an insurgency could be a headache for them.
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Thanks to satellites there's no surprise attacks anymore apart from in countries who either lack the capability or friends to give them the intel
That is unless Vlad decides to use his satellite killer satellites instead of allowing them to collect space dust
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China is a bigger threat to american economic interests in the pacific for sure and thats why they've all but signalled to the russians to walk in and take what they want eastern europe is of little interest to them now the new cold war is all about China and its threat to the far east, its where the tech is
Russia is not a western liberal democracy life doesn't have the same value to those in charge you only need look at the covid deaths, this will be spun to the russian people as a great moral victory etc and any criticism will be stiffled if not outlawed. Russia has history of killing its own citizens en masse more died in Stalin's gulags than fighting the germans. It has a history of closing its borders to outsiders to whats going on inside them like Chechyna and what happened there and you can bet it wasn't up to geneva convention standards.
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My point was, US paranoia is ever present. It wasn't to omit the fact that China are a threat
Well sort of, albeit invasion via Belarus would be a surprise.. they'd perhaps not have as much warning for that one - Russian troops on exercise in that country rapidly deploy to Kiyv.
It would still require more troops, invasion from the East etc.. but if they could rapidly get to the Capitol then that would be awks...
https://www.reuters.com/world/spain-sends-warships-black-sea-considers-sending-warplanes-2022-01-20/
Germany looking more and more like the odd one out...
Germany looking more and more like the odd one out...
From what I've seen from videos from the likes of Bald and Bankrupt, Russians generally seem pretty tired of it all and largely aren't under any propaganda delusions - appetite for war is at possibly an all time low in Russia due to other ongoing domestic issues. I think it might actually be a step too far domestically for Putin if he did get embroiled in a large scale conflict.
Problem is he will just imprison anyone who goes against him, so does it matter I guess?
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What are they going to do though ? There's not a chance in hell they'll be used if Russia cross the line that has seemingly been drawn, none of the West's military leaders or politicians have the balls to engage in hostilities with Russia if they choose to invade, this is all bravado and a show of force in the hopes it will pacify Russia, the worrying thing is they're not prepared if Russia finally calls their bluff
From what I've seen of Bald & Bankrupt people preferred the USSR
Russians etc anyway not sure about his ukraine vids
At a smaller scale no - but the tide of public sentiment isn't against Putin as things stand but there is a definite tipping point there where the general tide would turn against him if he got the country embroiled in a major war or something like that.
A robust response is what is needed - but I share the concerns if Russia calls the bluff - the West is just not prepared.
A united and determined front is required right now but only the UK and some of the smaller countries in NATO seem to really understand it.
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I'm actually less concerned about Russia invading Ukraine and more concerned about about having our ships and theirs in close proximity in the Black Sea, and their planes and ours in the skies around Ukraine. It only takes one pilot with an itchy trigger finger and we have a major conflict.
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Unless he poisons them instead.
Every single person I know from a former Soviet country absolutely hated it and communism as a whole.
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