GTX 1060 To Be Announced on 7th July ?

FoxEye · 30 Jun 2016 at 09:52

SiDeards73 said:
I find it hilarious that you go on and on about the 480, which is a card that was to replace the 380, neither of which were to compete with the 970, yet the 480 does compete with not only the 970 but the 980.

Reports that stock of the 4gb has already run in out some places? And AMD not making more.

So you've got a £230 (ish) replacement for the 380. That's £50 more, and basically that's a 390 in a nutshell.

Blame Brexit if you like, but that's the reality now the 4gb cards are gone.

razorpakk · 30 Jun 2016 at 10:04

sand_dune said:
No it's not. 480 at least runs all games without stutter while 970 can't do that due to 3.5 ram.

480 is clearly ahead in new titles by average of 25%

So yes 970 is somewhat mighty in old titles.

It' has nothing on 480 same as 980, looking forward.

The vRam matters in SLI, the raw power of the card is likely to become an issue before you get to the details that push over 3.5gb.

Personally the biggest problem with the 480 is that it's just too warm for a mid range card, the 1060 will almost work with a passive cooler for how efficient Nvidia mid range is.

Killer7xx · 30 Jun 2016 at 10:07

FoxEye said:
You've got to admire their stubbornness

"overclocking to 1500 will save the 480"
"AIB cards with more power will save the 480"
"Magic drivers will save the 480"
"DX12 will save the 480"

Instead of looking at what AMD delivered, there is/was endless "it'll get better, just you wait" talk.

Perhaps they're just trying to suppress their own disappointment

You're only looking at the bad points of the card, DX12 is very much relevant and is an important factor in buying a graphics card in 2016.

It's undeniable that the 480 is a good card for it's price, especially when it's only rival in term of price/perf are HEAVILY discounted and EOL GTX 970/ R9 390. In most DX12 titles the 480 is on par or better than a GTX 980 in performance, that's been confirmed by the reviews out there. It would be wrong not to take that into account over the 970 when deciding which card to buy. The 970 may well end up like my 780Ti, slipping down the ladder in performance as newer games are released.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Jul 2016 at 11:00

Some specs leaked:

http://videocardz.com/61753/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-specifications-leaked-faster-than-rx-480

According to Nvidia's own slides around 15% faster than an RX480. Apparently according to the comments it is $299 - if that is the case it will be closer to £270 here then!!

Gibbo · 1 Jul 2016 at 11:05

FoxEye said:
Reports that stock of the 4gb has already run in out some places? And AMD not making more.

So you've got a £230 (ish) replacement for the 380. That's £50 more, and basically that's a 390 in a nutshell.

Blame Brexit if you like, but that's the reality now the 4gb cards are gone.

Had discussions with several AMD partners in last 24hrs and I have convinced them 4GB has demand and as such more shall be manufactured and should be on shelfs late July.

So the 179.99 4GB 480 shall return in a months time!

Gibbo · 1 Jul 2016 at 11:06

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Some specs leaked:

http://videocardz.com/61753/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-specifications-leaked-faster-than-rx-480

According to Nvidia's own slides around 15% faster than an RX480. Apparently according to the comments it is $299 - if that is the case it will be closer to £270 here then!!

NVIDIA will not undercut AMD and they also will not price it under 970, the 1060 shall go in the gap the 980 once was with similar performance at around 300 quid because that gives NVIDIA a good lineup as 970 and 960 shall remain for a few more months which fill the 220GBP and 150GBP gaps.

Griffildur · 1 Jul 2016 at 11:08

Gibbo said:
Had discussions with several AMD partners in last 24hrs and I have convinced them 4GB has demand and as such more shall be manufactured and should be on shelfs late July.

So the 179.99 4GB 480 shall return in a months time!

Gibbo for PM I say, what would people do without you? Btw, the PM job is available if you want it ...

Apache14 · 1 Jul 2016 at 11:10

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Some specs leaked:

http://videocardz.com/61753/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-specifications-leaked-faster-than-rx-480

According to Nvidia's own slides around 15% faster than an RX480. Apparently according to the comments it is $299 - if that is the case it will be closer to £270 here then!!

That "Much Faster" graph over the Rx 480 puts is a bit of a joke. It shows 1.15 under performance, is that 1.15 x the speed of the 480 ? (axis need units .... whoever did that never did GCSE maths :|
)

But assuming the above 1.15 x RX 480 performance would put it just below the 980 in most benchmarks. But for $100 more ? should be sitting at $230 (taking the base $200 for the R9 480) or worst case $260 :|

So looks like it could be a bit faster for a bit more money :|

Gibbo · 1 Jul 2016 at 11:14

Griffildur said:
Gibbo for PM I say, what would people do without you? Btw, the PM job is available if you want it ...

So my role as PM:

- We are all human, so skin colour, race, religion does not matter, we are all same inside, so just get along.
- Speed limits, Motorways dry speed limit of 120mph, wet limit 90mph, new national speed limit of 85mph.
- Re-join EU, strength in numbers, a single branch snaps easily, a 100 branches tied together are very hard to snap.

But the real running of a country, I'd have no clue, I just find it saddening why as the human race we struggle to get along when in reality we are all the same and are supposed to be an intelligent species.......

ljt · 1 Jul 2016 at 11:16

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Some specs leaked:

http://videocardz.com/61753/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-specifications-leaked-faster-than-rx-480

According to Nvidia's own slides around 15% faster than an RX480. Apparently according to the comments it is $299 - if that is the case it will be closer to £270 here then!!

If that is true then Nvidia are releasing this 10 series cards at a price point 1 tier above the 9 series

The 970gtx on release was about £270, now the 1060gtx is more than likely going to be £270 (even if we put the £/$ at 1.4 it still works out at £250+)

The 960gtx was only $200 on release, so they are adding $100 for its replacement.

It's pushing me further and further away from PC gaming now

Feoilban · 1 Jul 2016 at 11:16

FoxEye said:
You've got to admire their stubbornness

"overclocking to 1500 will save the 480"
"AIB cards with more power will save the 480"
"Magic drivers will save the 480"
"DX12 will save the 480"

Instead of looking at what AMD delivered, there is/was endless "it'll get better, just you wait" talk.

Perhaps they're just trying to suppress their own disappointment

Did you not read or looked at any of the reviews ?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Jul 2016 at 11:32

I wonder if this a salvaged GP104 based card - the GTX660TI was priced in the same area IIRC and was based on the GK104.

Seanspeed · 1 Jul 2016 at 11:37

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I wonder if this a salvaged GP104 based card - the GTX660TI was priced in the same area IIRC and was based on the GK104.

There were some rumors of that being the case a while back.

So maybe.

fs123 · 1 Jul 2016 at 12:04

If the 1060 is around £300 then what I feared has started to happen. Nvidia is essentially moving all their cards pricing up 1 tier. Where the 970 used to be around £270 we are going to get a 1060 occupying that slot eventually after prices settle.

All those fanboys saying the 480 is only 390/970 level should realise that AMD has at least tried to keep the price around the old 380x/380 level but Brexit has obviously messed that up in the UK. The 1060 however is nowhere near the 960 level pricing if it launches at £300+.

RavenXXX2 · 1 Jul 2016 at 12:08

£300 for 1060? **** that, rather save up for the 1070. Performance under £300 has been stagnant for too long, thought a new node might correct that but no.

DPB · 1 Jul 2016 at 12:15

£300 would be horrible, count me out if it's that price. 35% higher price for only 15% more performance would not be good value.

Now I'm holding out hope that there will some cheap custom 480s, because I really don't want that reference cooler.

Orangey · 1 Jul 2016 at 12:21

Ah already posted, nm

D.P. · 1 Jul 2016 at 12:28

Gibbo said:
NVIDIA will not undercut AMD and they also will not price it under 970, the 1060 shall go in the gap the 980 once was with similar performance at around 300 quid because that gives NVIDIA a good lineup as 970 and 960 shall remain for a few more months which fill the 220GBP and 150GBP gaps.

Interesting. Given the performance and power consumption of the 970, 980 and 480 they certainly deserve to stay in the line up, just a small price cut is all that is needed. In time nvidia can then cut 1060 price and introduce a 1050.

Diagro · 1 Jul 2016 at 12:31

FoxEye said:
It had better smash a 970, yes.

For me, up to £250.

It's not the price of the 480 that really irks, it's that they've failed to move on from 290 perf for three years now.

Everybody says it's a 380 replacement, but that only holds true if the price of the 4gb version holds at £180 ish.

But what about the 8GB version? Surely that's not a 380 replacement since the price is £240 (AIB will be higher!).

The 8GB version at £240+ must be a 290 replacement, yes? But it's the same perf. So I really don't get what AMD were thinking - specifically with the 8GB version.

The 1060 does need to smash the 970, yes. Let's hope it does, and stays under £250.

Your entire complaint here is based on prices. Prices which are higher than they should be due to the poor £ performance due to Brexit.

Sigh :rolleyes:

SiDeards73 · 1 Jul 2016 at 12:58

Gotta say is the Ref 1060 is £300 and only 15% quicker than a Ref 480, and the custom 480's are £240-260 in price and are going to then be around 1060 perf out of the box, with OC's they will surpass that i would imagine, and the Custom 1060's will prob then be around £340... you could potentially be looking at upto an £80 diff in cards for very little performance on the custom 1060...

As it stands if the ref 1060 is 15% faster than the ref 480, thats not very good for approx £60-80 more, especially given the ref 480 has a horrendous cooler and is massively power gimped, both sides will have failed to deliver, AMD on the bad reference design and again Nvidia on pushing prices up again....