Virgin Media Broadband 20MB

InsomniaCalls · 4 May 2007 at 15:28

Ulfhedjinn said:
I just found out I can get Sky "up to" 16Mbit broadband and free evening and wekeend calls for a grand total of £20/month, so I'll probably be switching soon as it's bound to be faster than 4Mbit even in my area and is unlimited.

You can get a rough estimate at your max speed here.

Psypher5 · 4 May 2007 at 15:37

InsomniaCalls said:
You can get a rough estimate at your max speed here.

remeber thats only adsl, not adsl2

Darkwave · 4 May 2007 at 16:21

InsomniaCalls said:
You can get a rough estimate at your max speed here.

Thanks for the link, it tells me that my area would get 4Mbit or higher which is fine for me as I'd be paying a lot less than I am for 4Mbit with Virgina right now. I also wouldn't have to worry about throttling.

Psypher5 said:
remeber thats only adsl, not adsl2

Do you happen to know what speed I'd get with ADSL2 if I'm in an area that gets 4Mbit+ on ADSL?

Psypher5 · 4 May 2007 at 16:28

Ulfhedjinn said:
Thanks for the link, it tells me that my area would get 4Mbit or higher which is fine for me as I'd be paying a lot less than I am for 4Mbit with Virgina right now. I also wouldn't have to worry about throttling.

Do you happen to know what speed I'd get with ADSL2 if I'm in an area that gets 4Mbit+ on ADSL?

no

depends on distance, line quality, allsorts I spose.

be said ill get abour 9meg (1.5km away), they also told my mate this (hes same dist from exchange etc) and he gets ~13/15meg.

you only seem to drift off the scale when your hitting 4/5km away, but then you still get 4meg or so

Darkwave · 4 May 2007 at 16:39

Ah well I'd be happy with 4Mbit for £10, especially if it's not throttled all the time.

Van Diemen · 4 May 2007 at 18:23

This Traffic management as they call it has already started in my area. Im on 10meg & its been solid ever since Iv had it. but for the last 4 days Im seeing 4-5meg after 4pm. Thats just balls

ScoobyDoo · 4 May 2007 at 19:21

Van Diemen said:
This Traffic management as they call it has already started in my area. Im on 10meg & its been solid ever since Iv had it. but for the last 4 days Im seeing 4-5meg after 4pm. Thats just balls

You should only be seeing 4-5meg at 4pm if youve download over 3gb between 4-midnight that day. So at 4pm you should still be receving 10/20mb, its only when you download over 3gb between those times that you connection speed drops to 5mb for 4hrs.

Darkwave · 4 May 2007 at 19:31

ScoobyDoo said:
You should only be seeing 4-5meg at 4pm if youve download over 3gb between 4-midnight that day. So at 4pm you should still be receving 10/20mb, its only when you download over 3gb between those times that you connection speed drops to 5mb for 4hrs.

You can theoretically cover 3GB in 9 minutes on 20Mbit, 15-20min is more realistic though.

Still, it's saturated far too quickly and is a completely idiotic cap.

schnipps · 4 May 2007 at 19:41

Dont bite my head off as i think it may have been answered but whats about weekends?

Robert · 4 May 2007 at 20:11

Van Diemen said:
This Traffic management as they call it has already started in my area. Im on 10meg & its been solid ever since Iv had it. but for the last 4 days Im seeing 4-5meg after 4pm. Thats just balls

If you're still on 10meg then it hasn't started. Fergal Butler (one of VM's managers) has said it'll only be implemented when the 20meg is done in your area.

Darkwave · 4 May 2007 at 20:55

schnipps said:
Dont bite my head off as i think it may have been answered but whats about weekends?

It'll be 4pm-12am on weekends too.

BloodWolf · 5 May 2007 at 00:18

Robert said:
The 10mb service has never been crap at all. I, like many others download at max speed no matter WHAT time or day.

Yeah aslong as you're downloading from a good server you're fine

bringans · 5 May 2007 at 00:51

as said before, just set ya DL to go arfter peaks, daytime etc. I think I am in the 5% and tbh been slow DL for last year in peak time, Ive just adjusted.

stigggeh · 5 May 2007 at 01:01

Ulfhedjinn said:
It'll be 4pm-12am on weekends too.

got a source for this, or is it a guess ?

bringans · 5 May 2007 at 01:40

http://allyours.virginmedia.com/html/internet/traffic.html

I get the idea its every day from this.

schnipps · 5 May 2007 at 08:58

How can they warrant the 2quid increase in price then as the service isnt really getting any better, i hate the way they make out as if hardly anyone on the XL package downloads lots, banding 5% figures about. Why the hell would anyone be on 20meg for emails and web browsing? Its utter shash.

Darkwave · 5 May 2007 at 11:35

stigggeh said:
got a source for this, or is it a guess ?

It's been happening to me for months?

I'm in one of the main areas that was trialled.

Werewolf · 5 May 2007 at 11:43

you can still download nearly 50% more a day if you're carful - remember the limit is only in place for 8 hours a day and still lets you download at 5mb/s

A few calculations tell me that at
5mb/s you could theoretically get 54GB a day, or 2.3GB an hour
10mb/s you could theoretically get 108GB a day, or 4.5GB an hour
20mb/s you could theoretically get 216GB a day, or 9GB an hour

With this throttling you could theoretically get 162GB+ a day*, I make that about a 55% increase on the old 10mb speeds - so hardly "no improvement".

I personally don't know anyone who needs that much a day for normal usage, I personally would prefer bandwidth throttling with the extra speed "off peak" ensuring I get a decent connection for gaming etc in the evening than any of the alternatives (bandwidth caps, very poor connection due to the people that cannot hold off downloading the latest DVD's for a few hours/limit their speeds voluntarily).

*If you play it you could probably squeeze another 3-4gb out of it

DanMc07 · 5 May 2007 at 12:13

schnipps said:
How can they warrant the 2quid increase in price then as the service isnt really getting any better, i hate the way they make out as if hardly anyone on the XL package downloads lots, banding 5% figures about. Why the hell would anyone be on 20meg for emails and web browsing? Its utter shash.

My thoughts exactly

Tom|Nbk · 5 May 2007 at 13:17

Werewolf said:
you can still download nearly 50% more a day if you're carful - remember the limit is only in place for 8 hours a day and still lets you download at 5mb/s

A few calculations tell me that at
5mb/s you could theoretically get 54GB a day, or 2.3GB an hour
10mb/s you could theoretically get 108GB a day, or 4.5GB an hour
20mb/s you could theoretically get 216GB a day, or 9GB an hour

With this throttling you could theoretically get 162GB+ a day*, I make that about a 55% increase on the old 10mb speeds - so hardly "no improvement".

I personally don't know anyone who needs that much a day for normal usage, I personally would prefer bandwidth throttling with the extra speed "off peak" ensuring I get a decent connection for gaming etc in the evening than any of the alternatives (bandwidth caps, very poor connection due to the people that cannot hold off downloading the latest DVD's for a few hours/limit their speeds voluntarily).

*If you play it you could probably squeeze another 3-4gb out of it

Agreed, this shaping won't affect me.