It didn't get a few bells and whistle plonked on. It got a full path tracing engine. Have a look at the excellent posts by @Rroff.
I beleive DLSS partly uses data from previous frames. If it's not getting enough frames then you will get artifacts.
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10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..
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It didn't get a few bells and whistle plonked on. It got a full path tracing engine. Have a look at the excellent posts by @Rroff.
I beleive DLSS partly uses data from previous frames. If it's not getting enough frames then you will get artifacts.
Why is 16gb VRAM more important if you game at 1440p?
No, I meant everything else, such as raytracing, DLSS (AI based super sampling), AI, video encoding, etc.
What good is more VRAM when the GPU doesn't have the grunt in the first place? Remember they cut everything out of RDNA2 that wasn't needed for gaming, leaving a console chip.
It's still a 20+ year old game with a fresh coat of paint. Had it been a more recent game then most likely it would have made the gpu grind to a halt, it's no coincidence they chose a game that was so old with low resolution assets to put up as an rtx posterchild. Had they done this with say, Doom 3 or something along those lines it would probably be totally unplayable.
No idea if that's the case or not, what is "enough frames"? Enough fps is something that can vary on a game by game and user by user basis. I don't recall dlss ever needing a certain framerate to function properly.
There he goes again, so a dedicated gaming gpu is now a console chip?
Yes that's was the intention. If you just want to keep bringing up Control/CP2077 then I will just bring up godfall since the 90fps my 6800XT gets at ultra settings with raytracing on is very playable thank you very much.
Does GodAwFall have RT? Post a pic or two showing 90FPS 1440p reflections, shadows and GI?
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I'm a developer. Having 16gb VRAM is very nice. 8/10GB VRAM when dealing with raytracing in Unreal engine is not enough. 3090 was out of my budget.
Well what would you call a chip that was designed primarly for gaming on a console?
A gaming gpu, oddly enough, take it you've never heard that term before? You ever heard the term gaming rig or gaming pc? This is getting incredibly cringeworthy...
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Did you play Godfall? Some would say it's a more fun game than ConTroll.
A video is better than a pic: https://youtu.be/7QwdbyVEJhY?t=216
Mind you this was taken 6 months ago so the performance has probably improved since then.
As a developer you would realise that not many people have more than 8GB of VRAM and that targetting more would equal less potential sales. You would also realise that the consoles, the main appeal of RDNA2, have a total of 16GB of RAM. The XBox has physically split it's RAM in to 6 and 10GB chunks while the PS has one 16GB chunk. Budgeting ~6GB for OS/housekeeping, game and game data is not unreasonable. That leaves 10GB free for graphics.
Highly doubt you’re a game developer as you’re seriously lacking on the fundamentals.
'Gaming rig' I'm undecided on. I also chuckle at the use of the word 'cool' when not talking about the weather. Gaming PC is fine, or as it used to be known, PC.
dunno though, landscape can quickly change.
how many gamers had 2 gb vram cards in 2013? i would say a fairly %70-80 of them.
in just 2 years... all those cards become obsolete because vram demands quickly increased. everyone released their 4 gb cards and everyone moved on.
if nvidia releases their own 16 gb 4070s and 4070s, everyone will, again, move on. rtx 3060 already brings 12 gb vram at an entry level. im not saying that its a good gpu. but its a huge upgrade for a gtx 1060 user.
many gtx 1060 users will upgrade to 12 gb rtx 3060/4060s. can you imagine that? majority of gamers will actually have 12 gb vram cards. many of them cant actually afford 3070 and 3080, but they can, if there was proper stocks, afford a 3060 easily.
12 gb will be a mainstream vram amount by the end of 2022, and i suspect that it will be "required" to have at 4k
for 1440p, 10 gb might be revelant for a couple more years, dont know but 8 gb is surelly doomed for 1440p
outside of that, im pretty sure even at 1080p, 12 gb vram cards will still enjoy super high quality textures without any sacrifice at all
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That's not how it works. Firstly when you have the unpackaged project open in the editor it consumes more VRAM than the packaged build. Secondly games take time to be optimized. Unless you try to optimize everything from the start (which is an impossible way of development) then you will need that VRAM. So mid-project it could consume 12GB VRAM but by the time your ready for release you could have gotten it much lower.
I know someone who tried to open a FREE UE4 project from the Marketplace in raytracing with RTX3070 and it said there was not enough video memory to open it. Even after reducing reflection captures from 2048 bits to 1024. This already tells me that 8GB VRAM is not enough for development with raytracing.
I'm facepalming so hard right now....
@Rroff had a nice video showing what the path tracing engine was capable of. Need to cook dinner before having another look for it.
No idea if that's the case or not, what is "enough frames"? Enough fps is something that can vary on a game by game and user by user basis. I don't recall dlss ever needing a certain framerate to function properly.[/QUOTE]
There is a video that I posted recently on low resoultion DLSS gaming that mentions it.
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Speaking of drivers AMD just released a huge one for RDNA2: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/rn-rad-win-21-4-1
Appears that Radeon 6000 is now just as good for streaming as Nvidia and supports 4k/144fps streaming.
Ryzen CPU monitoring now built into Radeon Software.
Loving the amount of updates AMD is giving us.
Appears that Radeon 6000 is now just as good for streaming as Nvidia and supports 4k/144fps streaming.
Ryzen CPU monitoring now built into Radeon Software.
Loving the amount of updates AMD is giving us.
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Speaking of 20 year old games. Here's the performance I got in Quake 2 RTX on my 6800XT
Not too shabby considering it's a fully raytraced version of the game and 3440X1440p resolution.
Not too shabby considering it's a fully raytraced version of the game and 3440X1440p resolution.
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In "everything else" what you really mean is Raytracing. I like how you turn one thing into everything... The 6000 cards for the most part have more VRAM, i personally decided that was more important feature for me than better Raytracing performance this gen.
Yes that's was the intention. If you just want to keep bringing up Control/CP2077 then I will just bring up godfall since the 90fps my 6800XT gets at ultra settings with raytracing on is very playable thank you very much.
If AMD's cars don't meet Nvidia head on with DLSS equivalent then it's a big blow, and I find it hard to see how AMD will, given the fact that Nvidia cards have extra hardware to facilitate DLSS and allow the performance increase to be more than if there were no extra hardware.
DLSS is a very much needed technology at the moment if you want to play with all bells and whistles at 4k.
Speaking of 20 year old games. Here's the performance I got in Quake 2 RTX on my 6800XT
Not too shabby considering it's a fully raytraced version of the game and 3440X1440p resolution.
would you mind sharing a pic of your graphical settings?
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