Your popcorn gif groom of the stool does that for you I guess.
I was involved, but when I questioned your logic around using only one website, in German that you found, you accused me of having a problem, instead of having a scientific debate around calling something techpress as a global finding, further more you've decided on your own list of websites you deem as believable. WHich is hilarious - trhat's how conspiracy theorists think.
Nexus 18 does a fine job AS AN OWNER of a 3080. Apologies I don't have the time, nor want to spend it dwelling in here all day everyday - on JSA or not. You cant have a discussion with people who accuse you of having a problem because they don't like being questioned over logic. A scientific argument concerning evidence is never based on one result.
When I throw shade, there is observational evidence in mine - me being on JSA is baseless, so completely different than baseless name calling. Therein lies the difference.
I don't get you and your inability of being able to conduct some scientific thinking. In fact this whole thread, why you have spend so much time arguing about a card you've never owned. Why don't you get one, you've bought loads of 6900XT's and a 3090 - get a 3080. The time you'll need it to do your vids etc you'll flip it for no loss in ££££. You'll be able to shut us all up then and you would have spent a fraction of the time wasted arguing in a thread in some forum, it'll be on your channel for all to see forever.
My original issue was that there was loads of TECHPRESS reviews that didn't bother with the anomaly which you found on a German website of all places (probabaly fwd to you by someone that does the same job as you in Germany no doubt). The single digit fall over is an anomoloy and appears using certain settings. Anyone gaming at 4k NEVER goes into settings and selects everything to max settings, unless you dont know what you are doing. Only reviews use MAx settings for an apples to apples comaprison. GAmers dont need that - they want to get the best experience from their card with best IQ and performance. WHich now involves tweaking extras like a decent DLSS implementation and whtether RT makes a difference or not, which in FC 6 with so much natural environmenmt wont have such an impact as in say a more reflective built environment. Let alone things like max AA, motion blur or post processing for potato resolutions that an apples to apples review will use.
One guy asked about the game and you replied with, he asked so you commented - but he didn't ask you directly, but as usual you take it on yourself as the entitled forum oracle. Fair enough around AMD and cards you own, but the amount of time you've spent in this trhead this time around over a card you've never owned with poor scietific understanding around how evidence works to draw a valid conclusion is breathtaking. You've only evidenced why you removed AMD from your sig, because being salesy and nice all the time didn't sit well with you (wouldn't me either) where your true nature is much more divisive as we can see. Hence why you are AMDshrout.
If the way supposed people are arguing, that the way it's meant to be played now, by using the ultra preset when using 4k, then you dont know what you are doing if you are turning on technologies that were designed to enhance lower resolutions as you are not enhancing the IQ and just using up available GPU horsepower. Yes, anyone worth their salt will turn some settings down to get the best image quality. As someone else said further up the tjhread and especially in Farcry games. The difference between ultra and high - you need to pixel peep.
I remember you also trying to be the oracle around OLED panels before you owned one, your panel then had 10 ZONES of HDR. Then saying you had seen one in the AMD labs - oh that'll make you the oracle I guess, looking at one for 10 mins. Still then had to private message me when you finally got an OLED. Again, then, your entitlement to being the forum oracle but not owning said item at the time, is astounding.
I dont get you.
Well this is at least a step in the right direction Woodsta. At least this post actually contains something to debate rather than your usual posting style of nothing but insults at digs.
You throwing shade is not observational evidence, since you know nothing about me clearly. All you do is make false claims and throw insults questioning my character and motives etc.
So I decided to give you some of your own medicine, since I am not here representing AMD I'm just a regular user as I was before 2014. I asked for my name to be changed back to LtMatt because it gave the impression I was here repping AMD as a community manager on OcuK when that is not the case since May 2015. That's right, I left that position almost 7 years ago. But you wouldn't think that reading every single post you make about me here. This is the only time I'll talk about this here because it's no one else business but mine, however I just need to correct the false stuff you keep posting about me.
Happy to have a chat with you on mic 1-1 on Discord if you want to sort this out? Maybe you will be less confrontational there than on a forum.
Now to get to your actual points. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, linked articles etc. Nor do I care if you believe Nexus is right and everyone else is wrong. But your posts are largely framed around insulting me. I can give you a dozen examples just by searching your name if needed. If you took out the insult part, there wouldn't be much left but we could at least debate something. A forum is place to talk and debate such things, is it not? If someone is only allowed to post/talk about something they own, this forum would be quite boring. I can understand if I
was posting this stuff in the 3080 owners thread and being off topic. That's not the case though, I've not made one post there. Remember when you jumped into the 6900 XT owners thread to insult me? I remember that and don't recall you owning a 6900 XT.
Regarding the techpress, the problem was very few of them used maximum settings with the HD texture pack. They either ran with HD Textures off, or HUB for example ran HD Textures on and only used the high preset and not Ultra in one of their videos I saw recently. This issue was always 4K max settings, with the HD Texture pack. That was what the results from techpress I shared actually used. Also, these sites typically do 30 second benchmark runs, so it's not always representative of what a gamer might see if you play for longer periods of time. The two German sites that showed the issue (pcgameshardwarae and computerbase) ran longer testing sequences (still not long enough IMO ) and most importantly, they used true maximum settings. They both reported FPS drops to single digits as the GPU ran out of video memory. They reported the same on every GPU with less than 12GB too.
I have tried to get a 3080FE for a long time, but they are near impossible to get at RRP. I managed to get a 3090 at RRP so I settled on that. Not ideal and I'd have preferred a 3080 to test it myself, but this is all I was able to get. This is why I was keen to seek out other 3080 owners running Far Cry 6 at 4K max settings to see if the issue was reproducible. It was, three different users validated the tech press findings when using 4K max settings. I think that's sufficient evidence of one example where 10GB is not enough in FC6. I say this while still agreeing with your points about just lowering settings to get an optimal experience. However, if you do that then you won't see the single FPS drops that has long been debated. I hope that is clear now.
I've said this before in this thread, but it does not take anything away from a good GPU that is competitively priced. It's just one example and as I have said multiple times in most things it will be fine and will run out of grunt before VRAM. I don't see what is so controversial to admit that. If everyone admitted that, the thread would have only been a dozen pages long.
Yes OLED is better, nothing surprising about that. The extra zones improve quality, that does not mean the other solution is terrible, HDR 1000 even on an ultrawide was still a big improvement from non HDR display I had used previously. Now, let's be honest about this, you only took so much offence to that because I shared a video from HUB who polled their viewers to say which is more important to you, HDR or RT and HDR won comfortably.
