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10GB vram enough for the 3080? Discuss..

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This is what I'm talking about.

I assume there would still be games with "features and settings" you "cannot play" even if you had a 48gb buffer. In fact, I suspect a massive buffer would not improve the majority of of games you need reduced settings in.
No. Nothing so unreasonable as "48GB" just meaningfully more than a GTX 1070, in 2023 if for 2022 its too late to change anything.
 
That is a very long winded way of not answering the question at all.
Look back at the whole thread, its nothing but one side trying to bash the other side in-to submission with anecdotal evidence by doing it more than the other side, like a war of attrition, as if the more mountainous their anecdotal evidence is the more like they are to win the argument, like the persons own experience is there in rendered unambiguously false.

Its ###### insanity.

If i'm paying £600 for a GPU i don't want to have to be making the same compromises i would have with a GPU costing much less than that, or the same compromises i'm having to make on older GPU's, can you accept that?

Why do you even care so much?

The answer is right there, it's you choosing not to read into it, it's not a simple yes or no answer.

If you read the thread, you would see one "side" posting plenty of evidence to debunk said "vram issues" i.e. hzd, re village, doom eternal, forza 5, re 2 remake and whatever else there has been and even had the that same "side" post a proper 100% legitimate vram issue.... We only have FC 6 where we have had a couple posts/members saying they encountered issues, no one, not even myself have denied "their" issues, again, this "side" you refer to have simply pointed out that there is issues happening on other gpus too thus it isn't just clear cut "100% vram and nothing else", same way the texture rendering issue wasn't down to the vram but in fact was a bug with the game hence why the developers "fixed" it... same way the graphical artifacts that was affecting nvidia gpus wasn't down to the vram as stated by said amd employee but was in fact down to a nvidia driver issue hence why said driver update fixed it..... again, the fact we are back to FC 6 debate says it all....

How exactly do you want me to answer? Tell you what, provide me some options.

I don't really care, I just like calling out BS and the hypocrisy that goes on :)
 
You didn’t answer my question?

Can you show me posts where anyone has ever said in this thread ‘it’s bad to lower settings’? All anyone has ever said is that to validate the asked for example, use maximum settings and a 4K resolution.

Golfclap.

You still didn't answer my question, can i push you to answer it as I did yours @Twinz ?

Seems like we have another debunker, dodging the question, moves goalposts. The level of interpretation failure is insane.
 
The answer is right there, it's you choosing not to read into it, it's not a simple yes or no answer.

If you read the thread, you would see one "side" posting plenty of evidence to debunk said "vram issues" i.e. hzd, re village, doom eternal, forza 5, re 2 remake and whatever else there has been and even had the that same "side" post a proper 100% legitimate vram issue.... We only have FC 6 where we have had a couple posts/members saying they encountered issues, no one, not even myself have denied "their" issues, again, this "side" you refer to have simply pointed out that there is issues happening on other gpus too thus it isn't just clear cut "100% vram and nothing else", same way the texture rendering issue wasn't down to the vram but in fact was a bug with the game hence why the developers "fixed" it... same way the graphical artifacts that was affecting nvidia gpus wasn't down to the vram as stated by said amd employee but was in fact down to a nvidia driver issue hence why said driver update fixed it..... again, the fact we are back to FC 6 debate says it all....

How exactly do you want me to answer? Tell you what, provide me some options.

I don't really care, I just like calling out BS and the hypocrisy that goes on :)

Do you feel like you posted more anecdotal evidence contrary to the opposing arguments anecdotal evidence to claim victory earning you the right to ignore all of it?

Because i don't.
 
That is a very long winded way of not answering the question at all.
Look back at the whole thread, its nothing but one side trying to bash the other side in-to submission with anecdotal evidence by doing it more than the other side, like a war of attrition, as if the more mountainous their anecdotal evidence is the more like they are to win the argument, like the persons own experience is there in rendered unambiguously false.

Its ###### insanity.

If i'm paying £600 for a GPU i don't want to have to be making the same compromises i would have with a GPU costing much less than that, or the same compromises i'm having to make on older GPU's, can you accept that?

Why do you even care so much?

Nail. Head.
 
Do you feel like you posted more anecdotal evidence contrary to the opposing arguments anecdotal evidence to claim victory earning you the right to ignore all of it?

Because i don't.

Again, feel free to link my posts where I haven't provided something of substance/evidence to back up my claims. Meanwhile I could very easily provide plenty of examples of this other "side" you speak of posting only one liners with zero evidence/substance to back up their claims.... I'm still waiting on gullibles list of all these games that are plagued with issues.....

The reason I and several others don't take the other "side" of posts with any seriousness is because they post nothing to back up said claims, said "vocal" ones don't even own the card to experience it for themselves :cry: Why is that so hard to understand? If you're having all these issues, great, post something to show it.... (although again, this thread is the 10GB thread) same way I could post footage showing a 100% vram issue on my 3080 10gb, it's not hard.

Golfclap.



Seems like we have another debunker, dodging the question, moves goalposts. The level of interpretation failure is insane.
Nail. Head.

Usual drivel, amazing how one can enjoy this posting style :cry: :o And you wonder why no one takes you seriously @TNA can I get Ricky laughing gif please :D
 
Again, feel free to link my posts where I haven't provided something of substance/evidence to back up my claims. Meanwhile I could very easily provide plenty of examples of this other "side" you speak of posting only one liners with zero evidence/substance to back up their claims.... I'm still waiting on gullibles list of all these games that are plagued with issues.....

The reason I and several others don't take the other "side" of posts with any seriousness is because they post nothing to back up said claims, said "vocal" ones don't even own the card to experience it for themselves :cry: Why is that so hard to understand? If you're having all these issues, great, post something to show it.... (although again, this thread is the 10GB thread) same way I could post footage showing a 100% vram issue on my 3080 10gb, it's not hard.




Usual drivel, amazing how one can enjoy this posting style :cry: :o And you wonder why no one takes you seriously @TNA can I get Ricky laughing gif please :D

You're just trolling the thread now.
 
You're just trolling the thread now.

Again humbug, need we look at how your cpu thread went down:


Post complaining these guys have no clue on what they are talking about, fast forward to them uploading a video to "debunk" your claims :cry:

Thread will tell people all they need to know. Long story short, if you have a different experience or encounter issues, POST EVIDNECE to backup your claim, same way HU came back (not just once, but twice....) and debunked your OP.
 
Again humbug, need we look at how your cpu thread went down:


Post complaining these guys have no clue on what they are talking about, fast forward to them uploading a video to "debunk" your claims :cry:

Thread will tell people all they need to know. Long story short, if you have a different experience or encounter issues, POST EVIDNECE to backup your claim, same way HU came back (not just once, but twice....) and debunked your OP.

Here is the problem with this, you are blatantly trolling the thread with this, its off topic and purely to try and get a rise out of me.

The problem i have is i can't really report that because it would just look like i'm trying to get something removed that you say makes me look bad.

I cannot think of much in behaviour terms that could be more toxic than that, you've just put both of us at risk of penalty from the Dons, was it really worth it, don't answer that you will just make it worse, its a rhetorical question.
 
Here is the problem with this, you are blatantly trolling the thread with this, its off topic and purely to try and get a rise out of me.

The problem i have is i can't really report that because it would just look like i'm trying to get something removed that you say makes me look bad.

I cannot think of much in behaviour terms that could be much more toxic than that, you've just put both of us at risk of penalty from the Dons, was it really worth it, don't answer that you will just make it worse, its a rhetorical question.
I’ve not even seen the post but I know exactly what you are referring to. Every post is like that, just have a look at the FSR thread for 100+ examples. Toxic is definitely an accurate description.
 
Here is the problem with this, you are blatantly trolling the thread with this, its off topic and purely to try and get a rise out of me.

The problem i have is i can't really report that because it would just look like i'm trying to get something removed that you say makes me look bad.

I cannot think of much in behaviour terms that could be much more toxic than that, you've just put both of us at risk of penalty from the Dons, was it really worth it, don't answer that you will just make it worse, its a rhetorical question.

No it's not, you are now pulling the trolling card because it doesn't fit your narrative.

- you make the claim of anecdotal evidence being posted yet as evidenced throughout this thread, that is complete bs :cry: How anyone can say that is beyond me, funny thing is you then get the same suspects and in fact even yourself saying things like "don't have time to read 14 pages or watch 40 minute videos" yet then go onto say "zOMG, no evidence"
- you are literally the worst offender out there for doing what you are accusing others of hence why I linked your cpu thread as "evidence" to backup my claim

Again:

if you have a different experience or encounter issues, POST EVIDNECE to backup your claim

Why is that so hard for people to do?

You're the one who has taken this thread completely off topic by going of in a rant about how nvidia could have given xyz for the same price or whatever with no evidence again to backup said claim and as posted, even purgatory pulled you up on it:


Oh... almost forgot, the 3090 also has 2GB IC's, but that's a £1,500 GPU, spend that to get plenty :D

3090 actually has 1GB IC's 24 of them, the 3090ti has 2GB IC's and 12 of them, this is why I stated there should have been 24/48GB versions of both these cards for the pro users too as really that's who they were aimed at and why I called a 3080 a disgrace of a card with 10GB VRAM, but some keep defending this fact and reality is it should have come with a minimum of 12GB from the start and 16GB for the 3080ti.
 
I’ve not even seen the post but I know exactly what you are referring to. Every post is like that, just have a look at the FSR thread for 100+ examples. Toxic is definitely an accurate description.

Not relevant to the thread but I'll address this too....

Define how the the posts in the FSR thread are "toxic"? Because I simply questioned/pointed out areas where FSR could improve? Once again, I referenced several reddit threads to show that I wasn't alone in my thoughts, of course given you work for AMD, anything negative being said about amd will be seen as "toxic", hence again, that's why I link to other forums where people that don't have loyalty to said brand also state the same but I guess they must be "toxic" too, right?
 
I’ve not even seen the post but I know exactly what you are referring to. Every post is like that, just have a look at the FSR thread for 100+ examples. Toxic is definitely an accurate description.

A small number of people make having a proper debate almost impossible, its like they are offended by opposing opinions.
 
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A small number of people make having a proper debate almost impossible, it like they are offended by opposing opinions.
A good debate involves both "sides" posting evidence to backup their claims, not just 1 "side".

Opinion is fine as long as it is not passed across as being a fact (unless evidence is posted to backup said opinion).

This is why I refer certain posts to being similar to Trump and his "claims"....
 
I’ve not even seen the post but I know exactly what you are referring to. Every post is like that, just have a look at the FSR thread for 100+ examples. Toxic is definitely an accurate description.

A small number of people make having a proper debate almost impossible, it like they are offended by opposing opinions.

Going back to the FC thread months back I derived at that conclusion you guys are recently coming to.

Simply ignore this person as they are exactly that. Toxic. You can handle the periphery nonsense from the interjecting bystanders but the consensus is from multiple people (at least 5 since then) that this person is beyond help.
 
No. Nothing so unreasonable as "48GB" just meaningfully more than a GTX 1070, in 2023 if for 2022 its too late to change anything.
My point is that you have to reduce settings even when vram isn’t an issue.

At least, every card I have ever owned has ran out of GPU grunt first. This includes the 3080 10gb in the title of the thread. If I someday need to turn down settngs due to vram, that one inctance will be outweighed by a bazillion more times I had to lower settings and it had nothing to do with vram.

If the most common reason for lowering settings was a lack of vram, I would then say that the buffer is too small. But we are still limited by gpu grunt far more often than any other resource on the card. (Although I have heard a lot about Ampere cards being power-limited, I don't think more power would change my gaming experience/settings in most titles either.)
 
My point is that you have to reduce settings even when vram isn’t an issue.

At least, every card I have ever owned has ran out of GPU grunt first. This inudes the 3080 10gb in the title of the thread. If I someday need to turn down settngs due to vram, that one inctance will be outweighed by a bazillion more times I had to lower settings and it had nothing to do with vram.

If the most common reason for lowering settings was a lack of vram, I would then say that the buffer is too small. But we are still limited by gpu grunt far more often than any other resource on the card. (Although I have heard a lot about Ampere cards being power-limited, I don't think more power would change my gaming experience/settings in most titles either.)

I have no doubt in your experience this is perfectly valid, however we don't all play the same games, we don't all have the same expectations, our experiences differ, one does not override the other, they are all equally valid.
 
I have no doubt in your experience this is perfectly valid, however we don't all play the same games, we don't all have the same expectations, our experiences differ, one does not override the other, they are all equally valid.
That was exactly what I said to Twinz, but I don’t think he can see it any other way than from his own perspective.
 
usual nonsense

Someone should go and quote all your posts in here and I'm 99% sure a very large chunk would be to do with me in some form rather than the topic at hand... For someone who supposedly has me on ignore and me "being beyond help", I sure do seem to be on your mind a lot :cry:

So would you care to actually address this thread topic and provide some context/evidence to your claim earlier on?

You seem to be of the same school of numbers as debunker. As earlier in the posts above you said one person, which turned out to be way more than that. Now your saying its a couple of games, which again is way more than that. Stop trying to be a politician about it and accept that it happens. The list will only grow.

#blameitonlocalsystem
#blameitonthegame

Come on, prove humbug right and post some evidence.

PS. can you go further into this comment; "periphery nonsense from the interjecting bystanders" so anyone with a 3080 who have stated they haven't faced any vram issues (which far outnumbers the inner knitting circle) is now speaking nonsense??? :cry:

I have no doubt in your experience this is perfectly valid, however we don't all play the same games, we don't all have the same expectations, our experiences differ, one does not override the other, they are all equally valid.

That's true hence why those who need more vram for their workloads will buy a card with more vram...

Love to see some videos showcasing where the vram is holding back your 2070s.
 
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