Th issue with that card is the asking price. Had it been £699 then I am sure there would be less complaints in regards to vram, though some would still complain if it was a fiver.
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12GB vram enough for 4K? Discuss..
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Th issue with that card is the asking price. Had it been £699 then I am sure there would be less complaints in regards to vram, though some would still complain if it was a fiver.
Does the rtx 3060 having 12gb really make it better value, than just having 8gb? (I know why it technically has to have 12GB, don't need a lesson on that).
8GB GDDR6X would have been much better than 12GB GDDR6 if designed from the ground up.
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Soldato
The display dictates a lot of this. Games vary with their demands but also you have high refresh rates or displays starting to offer them.
Few understand.....
Funny thing is even with FC 6, if you're gaming at 4k high refresh rate with likes of 6800xt and 3090, you will still have to use fsr but that's not allowed because narrative purposes
I played at 4k for a bit but needed FSR to get FPS target I was happy with i.e. a "constant" locked 60 fps (my 4k is only 60HZ and no g/free sync so have to use vsync, which means can't have any fps drops below 60) but being fsr 1, it looked awful so I was better of playing on my 3440x1440 monitor (which looked better anyway since QD-oled vs WOLED especially since I didn't need to use FSR at that res.)Inb4 matt comes along with a fresh windows install, highly tuned best components with AC right beside the pc to show how these results are wrong
Yup exactly, just look at 3080 10GB for £650
But according to the one, people were/are better of paying an extra £450+ for the 12gb model when it came out
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Proving how VRAM is a major price issue too (not because the vram chips are expensive but the demand for high vram cards) and how Nvidia is now using it to sell even more expensive cards to pro users that need more VRAM. It's nothing more than a 4090ti full chip with 48GB for $7k now..
Also no NVLINK too...
On the ADA version the Ampere version listed too has 48GB and NVLINK with a much cheaper price but still silly price of course. Nvidia sells the Ampere cards to people who want 96GB VRAM as they still have NVLINK and can group the vram and cuda cores of both cards.Even in the pro cards they are now knocking up the prices to new all time highs.
People will say this is not a gaming card and makes money but then say VRAM is not needed for gaming too, but not everyone buys gpus for gaming only and why VRAM becomes a topic of anger for many pro users with prices of pro cards being so expensive and the latest version having important features removed for more money now, NVLINK is a pro feature and shouldn't have been removed this generation on the pro cards or the 4090 class cards.
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I felt my 3080 had issues with its 10gb Vram in certain games at 4k maxed out. The 3090 I have now I've seen 12.5gb most and that's FC6 maxed out he textures raytracing 4k. I feel 12gb is enough for yesterday's, today's and even tomorrow's games but I also feel it's stingy on a £700+ card in 2023 when 6 years ago we had a 11gb 1080 Ti
Agreed. I think 12GB is fine. The trouble is if Nvidia want to charge £800 for a card in 2023, the said card should be with 16GB at least.
The 4070 Ti should have been no more than £599 imo and then it would have been a good card and 12GB would have been fine. The 4080 should have been no more than £799 and that would have been alright too. But they ******* are so greedy. AMD are just as bad this gen mind you. £899 for a 7900 XT, wtf…
Soldato
Only thing getting wasted is 10Gb
Yeahbutt, you had one of those for a year+/-; then FC6 came out, and through FOMO you paid MSRP for a 3090; and to show us all; that this one game that isn't enough! AT THE TIME!
On release NOOOOOOWAAAAY! Never expected a polished game from AAA.
AAAAND you paid MSRP for the game too, to tell us so?
NOW you cant afford a 4090; embarrassment would have you hide your sig until upgrade your MAXXXXX 15% 3090!
If you could afford the 3090 at the time, then the 4090 is 'same money'. No way you can justify your 15% for the coin - then not buy a 4090.
Slow clap for you mate - being the person that sets up the; "move the goal posts 12GB" thread, to justify your turdy-ninety justification.
AFAIK there are only 3 games (generous), ((FarCrysis6 only on 9.3GB)) @4k that require more; new on release AAAAAAND 2 years after,
3080 10GB such a terrible card!
3080 early on close to MSRP (+-£200); or wait for 4000 series - as the miners drew demand?
3090 for a gamer was FOMO when the 3080 sky rocketed - right after the performance and hash/hr were released. Everyone went for 3080.
3090 dreamers and the AMD shrout swinging one game a year later.
2nd hand prices between 3090 and 3080 are £50 - not +50% MSRP.
There are only 4 proponents of apparent evidence of 10GB is enough, well hell, lets move to 12.
No one uses default preset ULTRA settings playing 4k. ULTRA preset is for apples to apples - not actual PC gaming - otherwise why would you want to?
But ONE setting rules them all.
3080 10GB great card -
Told I shouldn't be commenting as I have a 4090.
3090 ONLY makes sense now - for £50 more than a 3080 2nd hand.
The famous 4 have outdone themselves and they quote choking on the next latest release - 3 yrs later and 'optimized like all the others.
Only 4 of them
1 3080
5 3090
1x AMD licker
3x FOMO.
Work that out.
Caporegime
Lot of rep for this post, but I see three names missing.
I see you have 'out of the rat race' Gary Glitter firing shots too.Only thing getting wasted is 10Gb
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Soldato
Sometimes you will need more VRAM than you really should as you cannot trust game development will be as efficient as it could be. Take Spiderman Remastered for example - at release it would limit the amount of VRAM it could use from the card's total meaning it would run into issues at 2160p max on a 3080 even when there was 2GB sat doing nothing I'm pretty sure they have since patched it to allow it to use more so not sure if it is still a problem. I have little doubt titles such as FC6 could be more efficient if they really wanted them to be but it's probably not a priority considering the small number of people it would help.
I'm pretty sure they have since patched it to allow it to use more so not sure if it is still a problem. I have little doubt titles such as FC6 could be more efficient if they really wanted them to be but it's probably not a priority considering the small number of people it would help.£649 last gen gave you +25% performance over Turings top card while £469 matched it yet £799 now don’t even match the top ampere card, the 12gb of vram is about right for this card in terms of its performance but I think it’s price should have been no more than £550.
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I've got a 10gb 3080 FE, you got the wrong guy for owning a 3090.
As I'm a fan of the franchise I thought I'd grab FC6 from members market pre launch.
Since it turned out it can't run full settings on a 3080 due to it's vram limitation, I think it was a bargain just paying £15 to complete my FC collection don't you think?
As you've ditched your 3080 for a 4090, do you recommend junking the vram limited 10Gb 80 and go for the 4090, does it play FC6 ok?
There are other titles like you say where it's a struggle too, but there's usually a setting slider that I tend to turn down to accommodate the low 10Gb limit on titles where only having 10Gb vram creates stutter or a slideshow.
Imagine 12Gb's going to go the same way as 10Gb this gen but they've upped the £650 to £800-£1000+
I've got a 10gb 3080 FE, you got the wrong guy for owning a 3090.
As I'm a fan of the franchise I thought I'd grab FC6 from members market pre launch.
Since it turned out it can't run full settings on a 3080 due to it's vram limitation, I think it was a bargain just paying £15 to complete my FC collection don't you think?
As you've ditched your 3080 for a 4090, do you recommend junking the vram limited 10Gb 80 and go for the 4090, does it play FC6 ok?
There are other titles like you say where it's a struggle too, but there's usually a setting slider that I tend to turn down to accommodate the low 10Gb limit on titles where only having 10Gb vram creates stutter or a slideshow.
Imagine 12Gb's going to go the same way as 10Gb this gen but they've upped the £650 to £800-£1000+
It would have been hilarious if tommy did go and buy a 3090, I'm surprised he hasn't though tbh given how 10GB is causing him so much grief IIRC, he went from a 3070 to 3080 though and paid the 3rd party gouging AIB prices but that's because he was too slow for what, a year, 2?
IIRC, he went from a 3070 to 3080 though and paid the 3rd party gouging AIB prices but that's because he was too slow for what, a year, 2? It would have been hilarious if tommy did go and buy a 3090, I'm surprised he hasn't though tbh given how 10GB is causing him so much grief
I thought he did buy a 3090. As you say given that the 3080 has given him so much grief
The only people it gives grief to is the ones it triggers any time it's mentioned 10Gb wasn't ever enough.I thought he did buy a 3090. As you say given that the 3080 has given him so much grief
Didn't you have a 80FE, scalped it, then thought 8Gb was enough to sell it on as well and eventually settle on 12Gb, yet laugh at me for saying 10Gb's not enough?
Got a launch day msrp AIB £519 3070, now in the lads PC, got a 3080FE into my PC eventually as we all know Nv d......r......i......p fed them to maintain sky high pricing, but I've always maintained the 3080FE@msrp is a smashing gpu, shame about the 10Gb.
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Just to reaffirm the triggering, the two highest 10's enough posters in the 10Gb thread.
It's the same two highest posters in this 12Gb thread that both said over and over and again and again ~'that the 10Gb doesn't matter as I'll be straight onto Ada anyway'
How'd that work out guys since NV/AMD cut out the scalpers and scalped them straight from the off?
DLSS3 looking good, what's your first hand experience of it, or don't they count as the games are rubbish anyway?
Keep on indefensibly defending, to think this mob wanted to punt us 12Gb for a grand.
If you put some of the effort into agreeing boarder line vram is not fine, they'll react like they did with the 4080 12Gb, its not rocket science.
It's the same two highest posters in this 12Gb thread that both said over and over and again and again ~'that the 10Gb doesn't matter as I'll be straight onto Ada anyway'
How'd that work out guys since NV/AMD cut out the scalpers and scalped them straight from the off?
DLSS3 looking good, what's your first hand experience of it, or don't they count as the games are rubbish anyway?
Keep on indefensibly defending, to think this mob wanted to punt us 12Gb for a grand.
If you put some of the effort into agreeing boarder line vram is not fine, they'll react like they did with the 4080 12Gb, its not rocket science.
The only people it gives grief to is the ones it triggers any time it's mentioned 10Gb wasn't ever enough.
Didn't you have a 80FE, scalped it, then thought 8Gb was enough to sell it on as well and eventually settle on 12Gb, yet laugh at me for saying 10Gb's not enough?
Got a launch day msrp AIB £519 3070, now in the lads PC, got a 3080FE into my PC eventually as we all know Nv d......r......i......p fed them to maintain sky high pricing, but I've always maintained the 3080FE@msrp is a smashing gpu, shame about the 10Gb.
True. The AMD boys do get triggered and start talking about FC6. Quite entertaining indeed
Yup. Sold my 3080 for £1620 to CEX. Hard to say no at that price for an easy hassle free sale. Then got the 3070 FE as that was what dropped next. Ended up keeping that and not bothering looking for any more drops as it did what I needed.
Finally sold that for £400 and got a 3080 Ti for £575. Do you not think that was the right move or something? £185 it cost to go from 3070 to 3080 Ti. I did not even need the extra performance or vram at the time or yet still with games I am playing, however felt it was a good deal and it was prudent to make the move.
I do not laugh at you for saying 10GB is not enough. I laugh at the arguments being put forth. I mean why did you not pay the extra and go 3080 Ti or 3080 12GB? I assume price had something to do with it yes?
Anyway, you know all this, you just enjoy the banter and windup on the topic. I said at the time 3080's 10GB would be fine until next gen cards
are out and I was right. New gen cards are out and in all that time 3090 users got to play the awesome FC6 with optional textures. Waaaaaoooow!
Just to reaffirm the triggering, the two highest 10's enough posters in the 10Gb thread.
It's the same two highest posters in this 12Gb thread that both said over and over and again and again ~'that the 10Gb doesn't matter as I'll be straight onto Ada anyway'
How'd that work out guys since NV/AMD cut out the scalpers and scalped them straight from the off?
DLSS3 looking good, what's your first hand experience of it, or don't they count as the games are rubbish anyway?
Keep on indefensibly defending, to think this mob wanted to punt us 12Gb for a grand.
If you put some of the effort into agreeing boarder line vram is not fine, they'll react like they did with the 4080 12Gb, its not rocket science.
Only person coming of triggered here is you sir. You are the one that made the thread. I just clearly enjoy the topic and banter.
Who is defending Nvidia? Certainly not me. They are greedy *****. I am just telling it how it is and clearly what I am doing is working for me so I do not see the issue? Me giving my opinion on the topic does not equal me defending Nvidia.
If you look above I have even said 12GB is fine. It just is not fine and is stingy in 2023 for a £800+ card. So how again is it I am defending? I have slated nvidia plenty. I don't do favourites, I do what's best for me
I sense someone is triggered Pass the popcorn @TNA
Only reason I haven't jumped to a 4080/4090 is that there is simply no games currently out which make me feel that the 3080 is lacking that much, grunt is lacking for 3440x1440 @ 175hz but I'm not paying £1+k for what maybe 1 game so far which is punishing for anything but the 4080/4090 (portal rtx)? DLSS is fantastic and providing longevity especially with the latest update to improve IQ of the lower presets, something which the so called "free" fsr can't come close to, that and I sure as hell am not paying £1+k for 2 year old RT performance Only way I would have felt ripped of or buyers remorse is if I had paid the scalping/gouging price of £1+k for a 3080 or 3090.
Pass the popcorn @TNA Only reason I haven't jumped to a 4080/4090 is that there is simply no games currently out which make me feel that the 3080 is lacking that much, grunt is lacking for 3440x1440 @ 175hz but I'm not paying £1+k for what maybe 1 game so far which is punishing for anything but the 4080/4090 (portal rtx)? DLSS is fantastic and providing longevity especially with the latest update to improve IQ of the lower presets, something which the so called "free" fsr can't come close to, that and I sure as hell am not paying £1+k for 2 year old RT performance
Only way I would have felt ripped of or buyers remorse is if I had paid the scalping/gouging price of £1+k for a 3080 or 3090.
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