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12GB vram enough for 4K? Discuss..
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I have seen a good amount of games where 10gb is allocated and 8-9gb is dedicated even at 3440x1440 but have seen no issues with performance or frame latency (except when I modded cp 2077 with several 4-8k texture packs) e.g. re village, doom eternal, rdr 2, DL 2, FC 6, Witcher 3 next gen, portal rtx, halo infinite, even in the likes of fc 6, you can see that 10gb is being exceeded and fps hasn't plummeted on my videos.
Tf it wasn't FC6, but your brave.
The rest of us probably couldn't be arsed by this point discussing other titles struggling on 10Gb.
Whenever 3080 users pointed out 10Gb being poor-it was walls of nonsense full of negativity aimed their way with the 90 and AMD used as some form of justification.
Some still maintain in total ignorance its just FC6-the one title.
All because they believed the one person@ocuk told the forum they can run FC6 max everything on 10gb because they showed it running ok for wee bursts of gameplay footage.
Not surprised their FC6 worked ok over a short space of time, staying in the one map point, making sure not to trigger map streaming, and they didn't record ANY active raytracing, I could re create those vids on an 8Gb 3070@4K FFS.
Despite plenty saying in FC6 threads in here it was ok/they enjoyed it/didn't enjoy it but the default excuse is 'but the games *****'.
The rest of us probably couldn't be arsed by this point discussing other titles struggling on 10Gb.
Whenever 3080 users pointed out 10Gb being poor-it was walls of nonsense full of negativity aimed their way with the 90 and AMD used as some form of justification.
Some still maintain in total ignorance its just FC6-the one title.
All because they believed the one person@ocuk told the forum they can run FC6 max everything on 10gb because they showed it running ok for wee bursts of gameplay footage.
Not surprised their FC6 worked ok over a short space of time, staying in the one map point, making sure not to trigger map streaming, and they didn't record ANY active raytracing, I could re create those vids on an 8Gb 3070@4K FFS.
Despite plenty saying in FC6 threads in here it was ok/they enjoyed it/didn't enjoy it but the default excuse is 'but the games *****'.
What were you saying about being triggered.....
Didn't you post about re 2 remake where the 3080 "**** the bed" and then I uploaded a video showing no issues like a month later and you go "oh they must have fixed it, I don't care enough to test it again" i.e. another issue which was fixed because it was an issue with the game and developers fixed it i.e. it wasn't an issue because of vram after all just bad optimisation or/and a bug, bit like the textures rendering/loading issue in fc 6, next please
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Also no active ray tracing? Are you one of these people who also don't know when/what ray tracing is being used and where?
FC 6 uses RT shadows cast from only the sun and reflections only for some puddles and metal surfaces of vehicles, barrells and that was present in my videos but...
*insert Jennifer Lawrence yeah ok thumbs up gif
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A whopping 3.8.....
As for forspoken, looking like it may be a terrible game too, no pc codes sent out, no pc demo and the leaked gameplay looks very meh, another empty lifeless game world.... amd seem to love these titles now. Thank god Nvidia sponsor quality titles and enhance gamers experience, you get what you pay for....
Didn't you post about re 2 remake where the 3080 "**** the bed" and then I uploaded a video showing no issues like a month later and you go "oh they must have fixed it, I don't care enough to test it again" i.e. another issue which was fixed because it was an issue with the game and developers fixed it i.e. it wasn't an issue because of vram after all just bad optimisation or/and a bug, bit like the textures rendering/loading issue in fc 6, next please
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Also no active ray tracing? Are you one of these people who also don't know when/what ray tracing is being used and where?
FC 6 uses RT shadows cast from only the sun and reflections only for some puddles and metal surfaces of vehicles, barrells and that was present in my videos but...*insert Jennifer Lawrence yeah ok thumbs up gif
Far Cry 6
Far Cry 6 reveals a Caribbean island simmering with revolutionary tension. The title features actor Giancarlo Esposito (“Better Call Saul,” “The Boys,” “The Mandalorian”) as President Anton Castillo, the violent leader who grips the island of Yara with an iron fist, promising a return to its...
www.metacritic.com
A whopping 3.8.....
As for forspoken, looking like it may be a terrible game too, no pc codes sent out, no pc demo and the leaked gameplay looks very meh, another empty lifeless game world.... amd seem to love these titles now. Thank god Nvidia sponsor quality titles and enhance gamers experience, you get what you pay for....
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The 3080 had such good performance for £649 regardless of the vram, if Nvidia had made a similarly strong performing card this gen then it would have been 10% faster than a 4080 and if that was priced at £750 or under accounting for inflation then I doubt many would have complained if it only came with 12gb vram.
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Except they would have....
10gb vram for a £650 3080, which is within 15% (being generous too, a lot of the time, difference is <10% 
) of a £1400 3090.... How dare Nvidia skimp on the 3080 vram! 
Should have given us 12gb and plenty would have happily paid the extra £400 for that I bet, oh wait...... Well now we got a 4070ti for £800 which is 5% down on the performance a 3070 delivered over the previous gen, a 4080 for £1200 which is 7% down on a 3080s uplift so regardless of the cards getting a vram increase it’s outweighed by the price increase and the drop in the performance improvement.Except they would have....
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To add a game to the "exceeds 12GB at 4K" list, Resident Evil 2 remake with RT on, or at leases that's what the damned game keeps warning me whenever I change settings, it shows up to 14 odd GB in the menu. Whether that's accurate and would actually cause any issues I can't say.
I agree that 12GB for the 4070 Ti seems right for it's performance, the price of the card is what's wrong.
I agree that 12GB for the 4070 Ti seems right for it's performance, the price of the card is what's wrong.
Play and see how it is. Resident evil village and 2 remake showed it using more than 10gb in menu but in game it is completely fine, check my YouTube channel (nexusbot) to see performance.
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Shall do, though I'm rubbish at the game using a controller so have thus far played it on my 1440p monitor (playing the second campaign, Claire's revolver is twitchy as hell and loves to rapid fire!). Will report back once I get around to it
Nah. Played it recently. It does not use that much at all. The developer menu is messed up in that game. You don't need to take my word for it though, use MSI Afterburner and you will see.
That's what I have been saying. But nope. You know because Far Cry 6 optional texture at 4K
That's because the 3080 was not poor. Case in point you even have one!
End of the day it seems you think it is cool for some to go on and on about 10GB not being enough and constantly using FC6 as justification, but when it is the other way around, that is not ok? Just look at how happy some get when a game does come out that uses more than 10 or 12gb, speaks volumes
Oh and finally, this is the 12GB thread, so not sure why you keep going on about the 3080 10GB
Yes let's get back on topic of 12gb
Can you run Portal RTX at 4K with 12GB?
No
Can you run Portal RTX without DLSS at 4K at playable frame rates?
No
Therefore can you run Portal RTX at 4K with 12GB?
Normal user: Yes
AMD: No
Your second post started going on about FC6, you've had more shots at FC6 in this thread than I've had posts.Nah. Played it recently. It does not use that much at all. The developer menu is messed up in that game. You don't need to take my word for it though, use MSI Afterburner and you will see.
That's what I have been saying. But nope. You know because Far Cry 6 optional texture at 4K
That's because the 3080 was not poor. Case in point you even have one!
End of the day it seems you think it is cool for some to go on and on about 10GB not being enough and constantly using FC6 as justification, but when it is the other way around, that is not ok? Just look at how happy some get when a game does come out that uses more than 10 or 12gb, speaks volumes
Oh and finally, this is the 12GB thread, so not sure why you keep going on about the 3080 10GB
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You've had more shots at FC6 in this thread than I've had posts.
What can I say, it's a game that keeps on giving
Yes let's get back on topic of 12gb
Can you run Portal RTX at 4K with 12GB?
No
Can you run Portal RTX without DLSS at 4K at playable frame rates?
No
Therefore can you run Portal RTX at 4K with 12GB?
Normal user: Yes
AMD: No
HR requires you to find the difference
Me: They are the same?
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Just look at how happy some get when a game does come out that uses more than 10 or 12gb, speaks volumes
There 'tis ^^^^^ Turkeys clapping for xmas - like it's a good thing.
The thinking and logic seems to be that it's best to spend many £100's of £'s extra on hardware, over the programming of a £40-£50 game on release.
It's never the game though - always the hardware you need to change - don't wait for those things that have been added to games forever - called patches/updates etc. Nope - rush out and get a better card.
Whole thing was brought about and driven by the divisive AMD online customer services operative. That is all we need to know.
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I understand the difference. You can easily tell when the VRAM is actually full because there's a measurable drop in fps (especially 1% lows) once the GPU is regularly fetching data from the pagefile. You can make this even easier to measure by forcing the pagefile onto a slow HDD which will amplify the effect for testing purposes.
Regarding allocated vs actual usage, see comments above. Yes you are right about DLSS, I was deliberately not using DLSS in order to test a worst-case scenario in terms of VRAM usage.
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