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1366 X58 Xeon 5650

Memory speeds can be hit and miss... I can't get my system to run above 1600 Mhz no matter what I try, despite the RAM being rated for significantly higher.
 
Thanks to this thread, I also recently upgraded my old system from a 920 to a X5660. It scored 10175 in Passmark at 4.2GHz which is double that of the i7. I had no idea it was possible, so cheers to everyone for this thread:)
 
I've got a 5650 @ 4.4Ghz, 12 Gb ram and a 970@1500 Mhz.
Now I know that a more modern chip would be faster, but how much are we talking. Supposedly the jump to sandy bridge was the biggest, about 10% and then it has been maybe 5% each generation, so another 30% or so. So all told I reckon about 40-50% faster ipc and then of course there is the clock speed difference. With the 8700K doing 5Ghz, relatively easily and mine only doing 4.4Ghz, that is quite a difference.

So the question is just what sort of difference would I see, would it really be 50% faster plus the higher clock speed?

I know the best thing to do is a better video card, but with the 1060 and AMD equivalents not being particularly faster than my 970 and being more than I paid for it (£270ish at launch) I think I'll wait for Volta before a new GPU.
 
Combined clock speed and IPC bump to Coffee Lake would be maybe 60% on average. Depends on the application of course: applications that use AVX instruction sets will benefit more than applications that don't.
 
Not really sure on that, but next year when we move all our kit on to VMware I'm hoping to grab myself a Xeon E5 2690. Think I'll be sticking with the Xeons personally.

Can you not clock the x5670 more with the water cooler with such low temps?
 
KungFuSpaghetti said:
Is it worth sticking a liquid cooler on these for overclocking? Something like the Cooler Master 240 CFM? Or best just sticking with an air cooler for overclocking?
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Depends how high you wanna go I guess. I can't go beyond 4.2-4.4 GHz on mine (191x22-23) and my air cooler is more than adequate for that. If you want to try for 4.4+ GHz on all cores with an X5660, X5670, etc. with the higher multipliers then maybe liquid cooling is worth it.
 
bru said:
I've got a 5650 @ 4.4Ghz, 12 Gb ram and a 970@1500 Mhz.
Now I know that a more modern chip would be faster, but how much are we talking. Supposedly the jump to sandy bridge was the biggest, about 10% and then it has been maybe 5% each generation, so another 30% or so. So all told I reckon about 40-50% faster ipc and then of course there is the clock speed difference. With the 8700K doing 5Ghz, relatively easily and mine only doing 4.4Ghz, that is quite a difference.

So the question is just what sort of difference would I see, would it really be 50% faster plus the higher clock speed?

I know the best thing to do is a better video card, but with the 1060 and AMD equivalents not being particularly faster than my 970 and being more than I paid for it (£270ish at launch) I think I'll wait for Volta before a new GPU.
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What do you use your PC for? It don't do any tasks that max out my CPU, and the games that I play are more GPU-bound, so for me I'm not sure I would fully appreciate an £800 upgrade right now. The absolute best thing I did was to upgrade to a 1070, but my old GFX card was much older than a 970, so the difference was huge.
 
Any fast recent GPU can bottleneck so a newer architecture CPU would help with that. With my 980TI's in SLI I get bottlenecking and stuttering in some games that are more CPU intensive. For editing, encoding and lightroom, etc, the Xeon is still pretty good for that. It still holds it's own against recent CPU's in other tasks, it depends on the tasks really.

A 5GHZ 6 core 8700K will obviously give the X58 a run for it's money in all regards. For CPU heavy tasks it's very noticeable. I'm personally looking to move to the new platform now
 
MarkAG said:
Thanks to this thread, I also recently upgraded my old system from a 920 to a X5660. It scored 10175 in Passmark at 4.2GHz which is double that of the i7. I had no idea it was possible, so cheers to everyone for this thread:)
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Nicely done. That's almost 24% increase in performance.

Do you remember the single thread score?
 
MarkAG said:
Thanks. I just looked it up and it was 1810. I can only compare that to my 920 which was 1205.
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Thanks. That's a good improvement over the stock. Great value for money. :)

I myself was pondering over a new system. I even opened a thread about asking for some help but I decided to go with an Asus X58 motherboard, 10gb ram and a processor for £165. Opposed to the new system which would've been £310 just for these 3 components alone.

However, I'm looking at the X5680 than the X5660. I have read that it OCs better. I'll have to wait and see how much better it is with a Cryorig H5 cooler.
 
gigeorge said:
Who's had a 5690 and what've you taken it to? How does it compare
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I've got an X5690. It's running at 4.4 GHZ on water. It starts to get unstable if I clock it higher but I might be hitting the IMC limits, I've got 4 sticks of corsair vengeance so if i remove 2 it might go further. Might also be better with a better motherboard. Running intel burn test gives me temps in the 70s so it has plenty headroom.

These CPU's give even threadripper a run for it's money. They're great for lightroom editing, etc. I temporarily moved to an Ivy Bridge i5 and the performance was disappointing compared to the Xeon to the point I wanted to switch straight away. On paper the i5 is supposed to be faster but those extra cores and threads make a hell of a difference for multicore work.

Coffe lake is interesting but I think it's still not worth switching to.
Ice lake comes out in 2nd quarter of 2018 and it'll have an 8 core flagship CPU. That's probably the right time to switch!
 
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However, I'm looking at the X5680 than the X5660. I have read that it OCs better. I'll have to wait and see how much better it is with a Cryorig H5 cooler.
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They're all exactly the same CPU, just binned higher. It's still a lottery, you might get an X5680 or X5690 that doesn't clock any better. If you can get a good deal on it then it's worth the risk I suppose.

Most will hit 4.2-4.4 provided you have the skill and patience and cooling
 
wedrum said:
chips are cheap motherboards are not, unless you already have one then yes they are great performers.
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There is a lot second hand for around £60 not sure how the would overclock but £80 for both seems very good!
Would it pair good with a GTX970?

Could get the above for £200 all in. Not had a system since 2011 so would be nice to try a budget setup.

I reckon £300 would build a full tower.
 
I am still running a i7 950 with a 390 8gb with no issues and I play D3, the division, left for dead 1 and 2, csgo, all the lego games at 1080p plus other games.

I have seen the x5650 for £23 plus postage

I can pc my i7 950 to 4ghz but I normally run it at sock tho which is 3ghz
 
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