1366 X58 Xeon 5650

Combat Fighter · 10 Oct 2014 at 14:42

davida76 said:
It is awful for cables, the stupid thing is it's got cut-outs for all the cables but no room between the side panel and the motherboard tray, it's so tight that once you get just the atx power cable there it starts bulging as your mate no doubt discovered. Theres even a cutout for the p4 power but it surfaces beneath the motherboard right next to a standoff I'm sure I read somewhere recently that it's a budget manufacturers case rebadged.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand, I've sorted my temp issues with the use of some 1500 and 200 grit sand paper, I think the cpu ihs was concave because the temps have decreased massively from 84c to 71c under intel burn and when sanding the centre of the ihs remained nickel until last.

Now can anyone tell me why running standard instead of max on ibt gives me higher tempratures?

You should only run on max as the standard setting is not stressing your cpu properly, hence the lower temps using the standard setting.

For a proper stability test only use the max setting, also you will find it will take much longer to do so you can reduce the run times to 5.

davida76 · 10 Oct 2014 at 14:49

Combat Fighter said:
You should only run on max as the standard setting is not stressing your cpu properly, hence the lower temps using the standard setting.

For a proper stability test only use the max setting, also you will find it will take much longer to do so you can reduce the run times to 5.

I know that mate, I'm asking if anyone knows why when running the standard test it seems to heat my cpu up more than when running it at maximum stress test. I'm getting quite the opposite to what you said.

eg two quick tests, note max is cooler:
Standard after 1min

Maximum after 1min

Not that I mind, just curious about it.

stooeh · 10 Oct 2014 at 15:18

Bought another 6GB RAM off the MM and was worried that it may cause problems with the OC. I had to restore defaults to get into Windows at first but turns my old 4GHz OC was safe

1.39Vcore

Dont worry - I forgot to start CoreTemp until after the Cinebench run. 70-76C max on above settings

My board (GA-EX58-UD5) appears to be able to do 22x multi on full load / 23x on single thread which is pretty good imho

Managed to get a run on BLCK 210 as well but was silly volts and silly temps to boot! Definitely happy with the chip!

davida76 · 10 Oct 2014 at 15:27

stooeh said:
Bought another 6GB RAM off the MM and was worried that it may cause problems with the OC. I had to restore defaults to get into Windows at first but turns my old 4GHz OC was safe

1.39Vcore

Dont worry - I forgot to start CoreTemp until after the Cinebench run. 70-76C max on above settings

My board (GA-EX58-UD5) appears to be able to do 22x multi on full load / 23x on single thread which is pretty good imho

Managed to get a run on BLCK 210 as well but was silly volts and silly temps to boot! Definitely happy with the chip!

Nice clocks! What board are you using? Mine refuses to post higher than 20, maybe more volts are needed

Theres mine, dunno what that equates to in old cinebench scores:

stooeh · 10 Oct 2014 at 15:39

You managed to quote me saying what board I have while asking me what board

It is this one though

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2958#ov

davida76 · 10 Oct 2014 at 15:43

stooeh said:
You managed to quote me saying what board I have while asking me what board

It is this one though
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2958#ov

Haha, doh!

easyrider · 10 Oct 2014 at 15:52

Got my rig 4ghz stable with 12gb ram...happy now....upped the Queen's Park rangers and all is good....

Just treated myself to a gtx 970 and this system files considering it age....

It's also kept my upgrade bug at bay for the time being.

Cheers for the input everyone

Combat Fighter · 10 Oct 2014 at 15:52

davida76 said:
I know that mate, I'm asking if anyone knows why when running the standard test it seems to heat my cpu up more than when running it at maximum stress test. I'm getting quite the opposite to what you said.

eg two quick tests, note max is cooler:
Standard after 1min

Maximum after 1min

Not that I mind, just curious about it.

Do the same thing but allow for 5 min + for each run.

For me always running on max will give higher temps.

kylew_is_back · 10 Oct 2014 at 17:59

I have the x5650 at 4.4Ghz (HT off) stable, but every time I turn my pc on, it shut down immediately, and when I turn it on again it say OC fail and goes to bios, and I just exited from the bios every time, and pc start up normally with my OC.

mobo: ASUS P6T

by the way at 4.2Ghz (HT on) the system starts normally

tribz · 10 Oct 2014 at 18:16

Mine used to do that. I didn't need to go into the bios though, just do a reset and it then booted with my over clock. It's stopped doing it though and I'm not sure what it was that fixed it, perhaps more vcore.

Combat Fighter · 10 Oct 2014 at 18:17

New run tonight, bumped it up to 4.4Ghz.

Fully stable! :cool:

tribz · 10 Oct 2014 at 18:26

Nice! How far do you think it will go to?

Combat Fighter · 10 Oct 2014 at 18:44

tribz said:
Nice! How far do you think it will go to?

Dunno yet, kinda like at this for now, when I am bored I might push for some more.

It's running real sweet at 4.4 no problemo.

Ricimer · 10 Oct 2014 at 21:12

I am almost ready to declare mine stable at 4.2

I had a bsod and one reboot in the last few weeks, each time upped the qpi one notch, and nothing for a week (bsod in shadow of mordor could even have been Audio driver but I didn't have minidump).

However no issues encoding with x265 or anything else.

Also you may get higher temps if you set cores to 6 and affinity in task manager to alternate cores in ibt etc, mine was pushing 90 glops at 4.2 an 1-2 degrees higher temp.

easyrider · 10 Oct 2014 at 21:15

Ricimer said:
I didn't have minidump).

I didn't either after that curry last night

Matty_Boy · 11 Oct 2014 at 08:08

ALXAndy said:
You can always return it so there's no major risk other than about a fiver for return postage

x5670 installed and working on the GA-X58A-UD3R rev 1.0 board.

Currently have it running at 4.2Ghz (21x200) @ 1.3475v.

Tried 22x200 for 4.4Ghz @ 1.35V but wouldn't post.

Will try tweaking further when I get a bit of time.

ALXAndy · 11 Oct 2014 at 09:47

Matty_Boy said:
x5670 installed and working on the GA-X58A-UD3R rev 1.0 board.

Currently have it running at 4.2Ghz (21x200) @ 1.3475v.

Tried 22x200 for 4.4Ghz @ 1.35V but wouldn't post.

Will try tweaking further when I get a bit of time.

Excellent !

kylew_is_back · 11 Oct 2014 at 13:37

tribz said:
Mine used to do that. I didn't need to go into the bios though, just do a reset and it then booted with my over clock. It's stopped doing it though and I'm not sure what it was that fixed it, perhaps more vcore.

By changing the BCLK from 200 to 199 it seems to fix that problem, not sure why though.

I decide to turn HT back on again(at 4.4GHz) with vcore 1.39 and qpi/dram core voltage 1.39. under prime it hits 81C which is fine, but the vcore is high enough to worry me, is v1.39 considered safe for this chip?

tribz · 11 Oct 2014 at 13:50

I think it's whatever your comfortable with but I've seen 1.4 mentioned for day to day. I'm at 1.3875 at the moment working my way back down to the lowest I can use at 4.5GHz. I may be happy with higher than 1.4 in the future depending on temps.

reef · 11 Oct 2014 at 13:56

kylew_is_back said:
By changing the BCLK from 200 to 199 it seems to fix that problem, not sure why though.

I decide to turn HT back on again(at 4.4GHz) with vcore 1.39 and qpi/dram core voltage 1.39. under prime it hits 81C which is fine, but the vcore is high enough to worry me, is v1.39 considered safe for this chip?

Safe voltages are below 1.4v vcore and 1.35v QPI. You might want to drop your QPI volts if you can as that seems to kill these Westmere/Gulftown chips over time if too high.