1366 X58 Xeon 5650

setter · 21 Dec 2014 at 13:05

Generally how well do theese xeon chips oc, i can remember 4ghz was practically a given on the DO stepping 920's. Managed 4.2 on mine, 4.3 on the 930. Both also a heck of a lot cooler than ib/haswell.

Ste · 21 Dec 2014 at 13:06

Hmmm, despite several bumps in vcore in the BIOS CPU-z is still reporting the same 1.312v... any thoughts?

easyrider · 21 Dec 2014 at 13:10

setter said:
Generally how well do theese xeon chips oc, i can remember 4ghz was practically a given on the DO stepping 920's. Managed 4.2 on mine, 4.3 on the 930. Both also a heck of a lot cooler than ib/haswell.

4ghz is guaranteed 4.2ghz +...higher multi on the 5670 will get higher but I cheaped it up and went for a 50 quid 5650

It was a fun upgrade rather than pouring more money in and old system.

ALXAndy · 21 Dec 2014 at 13:25

Ste said:
Hmmm, despite several bumps in vcore in the BIOS CPU-z is still reporting the same 1.312v... any thoughts?

Either CPUZ is wrong or your Vdroop is awful.

Try using HWMON and seeing if the numbers match up.

setter · 21 Dec 2014 at 13:33

Possibly LLC at work?

Ste · 21 Dec 2014 at 13:59

LLC was causing it to droop from 1.312 to 1.298. I put it on level one which eliminated that. Level two on my 920 cause the voltage to go up under load so I'll avoid that one

I'll try HWMon, thanks

[edit] - HWMon same (looks like it's by the same people as CPUZ so probably gives the same result)

ALXAndy · 21 Dec 2014 at 14:44

LLC will increase the voltage on extreme levels yes. It's to make sure you remain stable.

Ste · 21 Dec 2014 at 14:56

I seem to have 4.2ghz working okay at the moment, a long way to go before confirming as 'stable' but a good start. 200x21, 1.32v

How do you generally know when Vcore needs an increase vs VTT/QPI?

setter · 21 Dec 2014 at 15:06

What are you stress testing with Ste? BSOD codes can go some way to explaining what may be at fault.

Ste · 21 Dec 2014 at 15:27

I'm old school, P95 12x FFT threads

Been stable on that for 30 mins now, might try IBT? Any recommendations?

setter · 21 Dec 2014 at 15:32

20 passes on IBT was my general stress test for X58. For the spec in sig, i just use normal tasks. On haswell you cant run stuff like IBT/P95 as the temps are insanely high.

bru · 21 Dec 2014 at 17:31

Cant wait for xmas ( dam missus insisting I wait for my chip).
I will probably throw caution to the wind and stuff loads of volts through it, It will either go pop or only last a couple of years. at £60 a go why not.

Mr. May · 21 Dec 2014 at 17:59

setter said:
Generally how well do theese xeon chips oc, i can remember 4ghz was practically a given on the DO stepping 920's. Managed 4.2 on mine, 4.3 on the 930. Both also a heck of a lot cooler than ib/haswell.

Very well its jkust depends on multi 5650 20x200= 4ghz or a 5670 22x200+4.4ghz

the 5670 is twice the price though so just depends on how high you want it to go/ how much you want to spend

Ste · 21 Dec 2014 at 20:02

Got my 5670 for 88 inc postage so worth shopping around

Jarrastafari · 22 Dec 2014 at 16:03

Getting this chip was exciting but since I can't use 4/6 RAM slots on the motherboard (bent/broken CPU pins) I might sell up and switch to X99. What is a comparable or better chip?

DragonQ · 23 Dec 2014 at 10:42

Despite the fact that I got pretty unlucky with my i7-920 d0 (3.8 GHz max), I still think X58 is an amazing platform. 6 years old nearly and it still chews up anything thrown at it. I don't even see the need to upgrade to a hex core Nehalem but I guess for running multiple VMs or something it'd be really useful.

It's a goal in my mind now to keep my rig going for as long as possible. At this rate it seems as if the hardware will simply fail before it stops being usable for contemporary software!

muppet · 23 Dec 2014 at 11:14

best upgrade I ever did . long live x58

ubersonic · 23 Dec 2014 at 11:36

Jarrastafari said:
Getting this chip was exciting but since I can't use 4/6 RAM slots on the motherboard (bent/broken CPU pins) I might sell up and switch to X99. What is a comparable or better chip?

When you say you can't use 4/6 do you mean slots 4 and 6 or 4 of the 6 slots? Can you still get it working in dual channel?

Ste · 23 Dec 2014 at 11:51

Managed to bend mine back ok can see how it could be a lottery though and I only had one bad pin.

I'm stable at 200x21 for 4.2ghz now at 1.33v in BIOS. Wondering whether to try for 4.4 but suspect the voltage will need eeking a bit closer to 1.4 for that.

Temps in IBT max out at 70 on one core and mid 60s on the others on a D14. Pleased with that

Feels like it has more to give... the other option of course is to 5v all my fans and enjoy the silence

ALXAndy · 23 Dec 2014 at 14:05

If the pins have sparked you're screwed. What I mean is, if they were shorting something then they turn a blueish colour and stop working/being conductive.

And then you're Donald Ducked... If they weren't shorting anything and were just problematic you can bend them back.

A mate of mine bought a B stock MSI BB X58 and it was dodgy from the start. His mate eventually straightened them all back but sadly it not only damaged the socket permanently (MSI did swap out the board) it also killed his I7 950. The pads turned very shiny lol and it never worked stable afterwards.