1366 X58 Xeon 5650

the_jetsetwilly · 27 Jun 2015 at 21:24

5670 ordered

found this thread by random was going to buy a new MB and CPU but thought I'd rinse out my Asus P6x58, thanks guys

jklc · 28 Jun 2015 at 08:50

ED209 said:
I have had a look on the usual auction site but the cheapest is about £50 but they are from the states (US) has anyone brought one from the US and got it working ok?

could be a tempted option and can then sell on my i7 950

Yup I got mine from there before they were widespread over here. Should be good to go.

PakJai · 29 Jun 2015 at 19:18

stooeh said:
Some games still rely too much on single core speed so a few would take a hit, you could offset that by going for a higher chip such as X5675s instead as they are 3.3GHz turbo (all cores) vs 2.9GHz.

Not sure how turbo is implemented on server boards though.

Just ordered mine from the bay, looking forward to its arrival . Hopefully it will be a hell of a clocker, so I can hold back on the need to upgrade to the earlier versions of skylake.
Knowing Intel, they'll likely follow up the initial batch with newer steppings, which tends to be the better overclockers.

DragonQ · 30 Jun 2015 at 09:48

Anyone gonna try to make it to 10 years on X58 with these babies? 6 years down, 4 to go.

Kelt · 30 Jun 2015 at 11:31

DragonQ said:
Anyone gonna try to make it to 10 years on X58 with these babies? 6 years down, 4 to go.

For gaming purposes, the trend that most new games now are using the GPU more and becoming GPU bound, would suggest to me these chips when clocked will easily last 4 more years!

That's my plan anyhow

Steeps · 30 Jun 2015 at 11:39

6 years down here too, longest previous motherboard was 3 years. The thing that will probably kill this off for me will be usb3 requirements (currently process file transfers over network to other usb3 enabled devices) and a lack of pcie slot support/needed for new graphics cards, pcie based SSD and other controller cards.

DragonQ · 30 Jun 2015 at 11:51

USB 3.1 would be kinda nice but honestly I've never really needed it. All of my USB sticks are USB 2.0 and on the rare occasions that I want to transfer something to an external HDD, I either use eSATA or just plug it straight into my server (which has USB 3.0 and all of my files) and copy it on there.

SATA 6 Gbps is overrated (compared to SATA 3 Gbps anyway) and is in the process of being replaced with NVMe.

Stu · 30 Jun 2015 at 12:11

For USB3, much cheaper to buy an add-in board than to build a whole new system!

I agree that SATA2 vs SATA3 is less of an issue, as the real benefits of SSD are mainly access time rather than sequential copy speed.

However, PCI express bandwidth, etc, may be a concern, but I have not yet taken the time to catch up on new standards. I'm still running the same GFX card from my initial build, a GTX260, which is certainly ready for an upgrade; but I have no short terms plans to upgrade CPU/mobo.

DragonQ · 30 Jun 2015 at 12:15

Yes, PCI-E 2.0 is likely to be the main bottleneck over the next couple of years for X58. Well, for certain people anyway. It powers my R9 270 fine and that plays all the games I want it to play on max settings.

Steeps · 30 Jun 2015 at 12:25

My system build was originally a GTX260, only upgraded to a 7850 as it came with another system I was stripping down... then crossfired with another 7850 that came up cheap. USB3 for me is essential as copying 80gb of photos over usb2 is painful, so it goes straight onto the server then copied over to edit. SATA2 has been fine but I think this is the next bottleneck in batch processing photos.

My main concern is Oculus next year, will require usb3 and a chunky graphics card update.

Kelt · 30 Jun 2015 at 13:12

Steeps said:
6 years down here too, longest previous motherboard was 3 years. The thing that will probably kill this off for me will be usb3 requirements (currently process file transfers over network to other usb3 enabled devices) and a lack of pcie slot support/needed for new graphics cards, pcie based SSD and other controller cards.

Bought myself a four port USB 3 pci card for a fiver, job done!

Stu · 30 Jun 2015 at 13:41

I've managed up to now with all my games running at a level that I am happy with, but the games this year are now beyond my GFX card. I still have a load of older games that I haven't finished, but my son is looking at F1 2015, which requires a DX11 card. (Currently running F1 2014 on current setup with no issues.)

I reckon a GTX 970 would be a good choice, as I guess anything more powerful would be a waste - opinions welcomed! I have a Dell SP2309W 23-Inch monitor with a resolution of 2048 x 1152, and I don't have any plans to change this in the near future.

Stu · 30 Jun 2015 at 15:13

After some research, I am feeling even better about our platform and GFX options.

This review indicates that PCIE 2.0 is more than capable.

I run 2048x1152, so I think I should get a GFX card that runs 1440p well today, which should be good at 2048x1152 for the next couple of years... I reckon that the x58 platform could do a GTX980 justice at these resolutions, and these Xeon chips will get stronger with the improved CPU multi-threading utilised by DX12.

However, one of the points of this group is getting huge performance at a budget, so I might wait a little longer for GTX980 prices to drop more... then I'll be looking at Pascal!

Tom B · 30 Jun 2015 at 15:45

Just to check before I press the buy button, there's no issues running a 980Ti with one of these and a P6T?

DragonQ · 30 Jun 2015 at 15:54

Stu said:
After some research, I am feeling even better about our platform and GFX options.

This review indicates that PCIE 2.0 is more than capable.

I run 2048x1152, so I think I should get a GFX card that runs 1440p well today, which should be good at 2048x1152 for the next couple of years... I reckon that the x58 platform could do a GTX980 justice at these resolutions, and these Xeon chips will get stronger with the improved CPU multi-threading utilised by DX12.

However, one of the points of this group is getting huge performance at a budget, so I might wait a little longer for GTX980 prices to drop more... then I'll be looking at Pascal!

Yeah if DirectX 12 really drives the move to proper multicore gaming over the next few years, X58 will become even stronger in the face of newer competition. Pretty exciting.

Kelt · 30 Jun 2015 at 16:34

Tom B said:
Just to check before I press the buy button, there's no issues running a 980Ti with one of these and a P6T?

Depends on whether the motherboard supports it. This is my main worry with these boards, supporting the latest and greatest graphics. They're obviously not being supported any more (as far as I know), so we're stuck with the bios we've got.

I slotted a 970 into my brother's X58 UD3 at Xmas, so there's hope yet.

Worth googling to see whether you're OK or not.

Pinball · 30 Jun 2015 at 16:51

I just installed a 980ti on a rampage 3 extreme and working flawlessly so far. I'm rocking a Gulftown 980x, though that shouldn't make a difference.

Stu · 30 Jun 2015 at 17:08

Tom B said:
Just to check before I press the buy button, there's no issues running a 980Ti with one of these and a P6T?

Check the review I linked to. They found no difference between a GTX980 at 4K running on PCI 3.0 x16 and PCI 2.0 x16; and PCI 2.0 x8 only had a 2% drop in performance.

I do not believe a 980Ti will be hampered by the x58 chipset.

Greebo · 30 Jun 2015 at 21:30

so which one is best to buy? they seem to range from £60 to £100 for the 5675. Which one is 21x? My board seems to like 21 x 200 the most with my i7-950.

Maybe i should get the one with 22x so i can make 4.4Ghz?

Kelt · 30 Jun 2015 at 22:58

Greebo said:
so which one is best to buy? they seem to range from £60 to £100 for the 5675. Which one is 21x? My board seems to like 21 x 200 the most with my i7-950.

Maybe i should get the one with 22x so i can make 4.4Ghz?

22x is what I'm running with my 5650 to get 4.4