1366 X58 Xeon 5650

Mrjobby · 21 Jul 2015 at 10:57

Aint that the truth.

My 4670K rig is shamed in the corner till I can get hold of a vice, then maybe I will get half reasonable temperatures out of it.

triss · 21 Jul 2015 at 11:34

Mrjobby said:
Has a 20 x turbo multi so I think I should get 215 x 20 out of it.

These things are so refreshing from the original 920's I had near 100 degrees back in the day.

It will turbo upto 22 mult, got one myself, can squeeze 4.2 out of it turbo mode takes it to 4.5- 4.6iish iirc

Mines back at 205 blck atm as i didnt really need any faster and was able to drop volts some. Nice chip just pity we cant lock the mult at 22

Kelt · 21 Jul 2015 at 13:17

triss said:
It will turbo upto 22 mult, got one myself, can squeeze 4.2 out of it turbo mode takes it to 4.5- 4.6iish iirc

Mines back at 205 blck atm as i didnt really need any faster and was able to drop volts some. Nice chip just pity we cant lock the mult at 22

I think it depends on the board, going by some of the posts here.

My multiplier is locked at x22, giving me 4400Mhz.

Mrjobby · 21 Jul 2015 at 13:22

I have it in a Ramp III at the mo and the max fixed I can go is 20, think if I leave it at "auto" it will turbo?

That said I have a UD7 and a P6X58D spare here so I have alternatives.

triss · 21 Jul 2015 at 13:33

Mrjobby said:
I have it in a Ramp III at the mo and the max fixed I can go is 20, think if I leave it at "auto" it will turbo?

That said I have a UD7 and a P6X58D spare here so I have alternatives.

My Ramp II wont lock to 22 either, so mines at auto (i think ) goes from 19 every core thread used then up to 22 depending on load, gaming its normally at 22 or 21 depending on game

Not sure if its a board thing Or because its the lower cpu

Stu · 21 Jul 2015 at 15:29

Personally, I prefer to run on auto if feasible... maybe I've misunderstood, but it appears that auto also lets the CPU multi drop when idle or doing less intensive stuff, which can only be a good thing. Providing it ramps up to turbo multi when gaming or doing CPU intensive tasks, then all is good.

essm1988 · 22 Jul 2015 at 07:39

Stu said:
Welcome to the forums!

Glad to hear that your upgrade has gone so well... 4.51 is an amazine overclock for daily use. I guess 1.42v would be manageable with a good water setup... just keep an eye on the temps and don't benchmark for days on end! Not sure that I would be comfortable with 1.55v though!

However, at the end of day, you should ask yourself how comfortable you are with the risk and consequences. Back when this was a £600 processor, a cautious approach may have been more prevalent; whereas now, a fried processor will set you back £60... if this is acceptable, then go for the huge overclock!

thanks bro , that what i see it is very cheap processor so why not use crazy vcore

Jarrastafari · 24 Jul 2015 at 08:17

Can anyone predict the next Xeon to appear like this one? I mean, what motherboard should I look to acquire to snag a powerful and cheap compatible Xeon? Or perhaps this was a one off.

Greebo · 24 Jul 2015 at 08:48

Jarrastafari said:
Can anyone predict the next Xeon to appear like this one? I mean, what motherboard should I look to acquire to snag a powerful and cheap compatible Xeon? Or perhaps this was a one off.

I would guess x79 and X99 will be next. There are plenty of xeons out there but still expensive. Here's the list for each platform https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_2011

But when the next load of new xeons come out, these will become available at cheap prices.

You can get 3.1Ghz 8 core xeons for the x79 platform and the insane 18 core 2.3Ghz for the x99 socket (although for more likely to just pick up a cheap 8 core 3.2Ghz xeon).

Already for the x79 platform you could buy (2nd hand) today a Xeon E5-2643 (4 core, 8 threads) 3.3Ghz for under £100 (actually £45 with 12 hrs left

), 6 core for under £200 and 8 core for under £300.

I currently jumped ship from 1366 to the x99 platform with a 5820K. If and when more cores have more and more benefit then I would look at swapping out to a high freq 8 core or even 10 or 12 core.

I did do an ebay search before I bought my 5820k and I could have got a 10 or 12 core xeon for much less money than the 5960x is already.

So should add quite a lot of longevity to both platforms.

Lighters · 24 Jul 2015 at 15:14

I have a i7 920 at that mainly runs at stock but can clock to 3.6ghz, I only have a 570gtx on 1440p, is it worth upgrading to one of these for gaming or stick to my i7 920. I plan on getting a 970 gpu.

Dave2150 · 24 Jul 2015 at 15:39

Jarrastafari said:
Can anyone predict the next Xeon to appear like this one? I mean, what motherboard should I look to acquire to snag a powerful and cheap compatible Xeon? Or perhaps this was a one off.

It's not going to happen again to the same extent, since Intel locked down the Xeon series in the generations after X58.

By locked down, I mean locked the BCLK to prevent overclocking etc.

So, maybe in a few years 8 Xeons for X79 will be available dirt cheap, but they'll be locked to a really low speed, rendering them useless for gaming purposes. Well, not useless, but a higher clocked and higher IPC quad core from later generations will be superior.

Jarrastafari · 25 Jul 2015 at 12:15

Thanks for the info guys. Was hoping to get X99 Xeon on the cheap in the future but I guess I'll either get another X5650 system if I can find a cheap mobo or just buy a new X170(?) platform when they become available. Thanks for the responses!

Lighters said:
I have a i7 920 at that mainly runs at stock but can clock to 3.6ghz, I only have a 570gtx on 1440p, is it worth upgrading to one of these for gaming or stick to my i7 920. I plan on getting a 970 gpu.

I had the same in a second PC and made the jump. It was so useful for CPU intensive tasks (rendering, etc) that I decided to sell my 4670k system and use the xeon full time. For games I think only ones that take advantage of more core (BF4 comes to mind) or SLi/Crossfire (if you go that path) will benefit from the upgrade. Note: 56t0 does run cooler; 4.0GHz with Hyperthreading was easily possible with the X5650, whereas my i7 920 would only goto 4.0 with HT disabled and even then it was running hot (80 degrees) in games.

Greebo · 25 Jul 2015 at 14:06

More games are making use of cores like GTA 5 and so will windows 10 as well.

EdwardTeach · 26 Jul 2015 at 16:21

I have a i7 930, and I am interested in getting one of these xeons.

are they hotter than an i7? do you need to water cool if you overclock them?

Is there anything worth considering beyond the 5650?

tribz · 26 Jul 2015 at 16:26

They run cooler. I'm on air at 4.3GHz using the cooler in my sig.

Dave2150 · 26 Jul 2015 at 18:28

Greebo said:
More games are making use of cores like GTA 5 and so will windows 10 as well.

Please don't try and mislead people, here are reputable benchmarks for GTA5:

_lecro_ · 26 Jul 2015 at 19:14

Dave2150 said:
Please don't try and mislead people, here are reputable benchmarks for GTA5:

Benchmarks that dont have a xenon listed ?

Jarrastafari · 26 Jul 2015 at 23:30

I think Dave is pointing to the 5960X being only a frame ahead of the 4770K, despite it having (perhaps two or more?) cores.

triss · 27 Jul 2015 at 00:07

Jarrastafari said:
I think Dave is pointing to the 5960X being only a frame ahead of the 4770K, despite it having (perhaps two or more?) cores.

Thats not bad considering its clocked slower

Greebo · 27 Jul 2015 at 06:41

Yeah the 4770k is almost 17% clocked faster.

I must find that list of top 40 cup limited games. There are some games where the choice of cpu can make up to double the fps difference.

Also lots of articles on gta 5 state that the game is using all the cores but although that only equates to a frame or two, in general the frame rate is much more consistent and stable.